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Destiny 2

Discuss all things Destiny 2.
4/9/2023 11:00:02 AM
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Reissued, revamped, reimagined, reprised.

Bungie. All you seem to be doing as of recent (last 2 years) is "oh hey we have the DCV, let's pull something out of it and call it content". WE ALREADY PAID FOR ALL THAT CONTENT YOU ROBBED FROM US. Stop scamming us. Start actually DEVELOPING content in exchange for our annual 100 bucks again ffs. I don't need to name any examples cause theres more every single season/DLC than i could list in a 50k word essay at this point. Everyone still denying it is still wearing their rose tinted glasses. It is so blatantly obvious that Destiny is on the backburner and doesn't receive any proper quality dev time anymore but atleast treat your loyal playerbase with a tiny bit of repect. I know that sounds tough as a greedy capitalistic company but come tf on. How players are still "okay" with your practice is beyond me. This game and their players deserve better. I personally lost interest and almost entirely stopped playing D2 recently. Completely over it. (Yes i tune in every now and then but they've lost a D2 main with me who spent like 8k hours in Destiny and was never more fed up with a game than D2 in its current state).

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  • Lightfall is the first expansion in the history of this franchise that didn't have PvP content, Gambit content, only a single [b]NEW[/b] strike, & reskinned strikes.

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    • Don't worry I seen the leaks for s21 More old stuff and even more reskins coming, it's gonna be great

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        if world did as much recycling as bungo does, earth would be a better place.

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        • I can only speak for myself, but would imagine others who have also played for awhile (beginning of D1 for me) are NOT ok with things. It just hasn't really caught up with Bungie yet because there are many of us wanting to see it through The Final Shape before quitting (due to being too invested at this point). I feel like after 10 years of witnessing all the false promises Bungie has made, downright blatant lies they've told and pointing the finger at everyone else (Activision), their own shadiness is really beginning to become clear. There's no more I can excuse away and give them the benefit of the doubt. Upon release (D1 days), Eververse for example wasn't going to be used to FILL the game with microtransactions. Then when it started getting heavy, we get the whole "we're a small studio, we'll use Eververse to pay for more secrets missions and dungeons. Now look at it. Those things are built into their own DLCs (30th Anniversary) or Season passes. It's simply been lie after lie after lie from them. I'll finish the franchise out with The Final Shape, but will be hopping off the Bungie train at that point. My wish as a customer is that they would just be honest with their communication. They might announce things I don't agree with or like and that's fine. Don't lie to me though and don't preach false intentions. This is why I'll never even give any of their new games a chance. I can hear the sales pitch already "we may have missed the mark with Destiny over the years but <insert new IP name here> is our chance to do it right and fresh from the beginning as Bungie on our own as a studio.". It's all lies. The leadership and marketing are devoid of any moral compass.

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          • It’s the motto Regrind, Reclaim (your titles) Rehash, and Repeat

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          • Edited by TheShadow: 4/9/2023 2:56:11 PM
            Has anyone considered that this business has run out of the other studio's work to use, that they are most likely using work they scrapped from D1 and some that was scrapped in this game? [b]There is a reason work is scrapped, people.[/b] This is the best this business can offer on their own unless they outsource their work, and this is what you are going to get for the next couple of years until their new IP releases. [quote]Stop scamming us.[/quote] Umm, you only get scammed if you buy into it bud, and according to you it happened to you a lot, that tells me it's a [b](you problem.)[/b] Don't get me wrong, I do agree with you that they have done very poor work without the other studios, but no one is forcing you to ignore the red flags, no one is forcing you to buy anything, and no one is forcing you to play the game. [quote]Start actually DEVELOPING content in exchange for our annual 100 bucks again ffs.[/quote] Yeah, because what they are doing now getting players to throw money at them "isn't working". It's a business first and foremost. If what they are doing now is making them money and people like you keep throwing money at them as you always do and right afterwords make a post like this every single time. Why would they, why should they even care about you or anything you say? [b]You'll just throw money at them anyway, and you have literally done it since 2014.)[/b] I know this for a fact because you have been around here as long as I have and you make posts like with every time there is DLC. Oh boy, in come the normal trolls, bring it on! 😂

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            • Lazy. Greedy. Bungie. But why would they change? Idiots not only support lazy greedy Bungie, idiots [i]defend [/i]lazy greedy Bungie!

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            • Shockingly little effort is put into this game nowadays. Lots of activism and social media activity from bungie employees though. It's like...[i] when are they actually working?[/i]

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            • Remember, they need to make sure that they don’t over deliver.

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              • After over 8 years of the Destiny franchise. This is what I’ve learned… We are listening Making content is hard We will not overdeliver anymore Because making content is hard Recycling Making content is still hard Pat themselves in the back (this one is laughable) Throw money at screen on shallow content Because making content is still hard Oh, let’s bring Gjallarhorn back. Then ask them to throw money for it. AGAIN! (also laughable) More recycling Cuz it’s just hard making it. Wrap it up in a giant hamster wheel. Throw money at Nimbus Make game hard cuz making it is hard (get it?…) Pat themselves again in the back. Rinse and repeat as needed. 🤣 Yep. Game so shallow you would not even believe these guys made Halo, one of the most successful game franchises that put Xbox in the map and changed the console market history. Really? From Halo to this?… I know when something is laughable, but this is beyond that anymore. Game is a shamble mess of shallowness!🤣

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                • Let’s be honest, it was the most obvious thing they were going to do the minute they announced Sunsetting in the first place. I got ridiculed hard for being one of a few of us on here to point this out. Got told every excuse in the book re power creep being the reason. So imagine my shock when they did the exact thing I said they were doing it for…. Still waiting for the apologies from multiple users on here for that bs, but let’s be real here, that will never happen. Came to terms with that long ago.

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                  • Edited by Ryan Foxling: 4/12/2023 7:46:11 AM
                    Until people are playing and paying they aren't going to change that. Let's be honest, what is the point of working harder if it isn't worth it? Valve is a perfect example of it, they do basically nothing and still earns loads of money from their games. And destiny doesn't even have competitors, both Dota and CS have, but Valve doesn't care about them. Forsaken was good because game nearly died, D2 right is far from dying. Lightfall is specifically so bad because they used minimum amount of resources to make it and now it's going to be easier to sell Final Shape, because everyone going to say, that Final Shape is far better than Lightfall and people are going to buy it, like what they did with The Witch Queen. From business perspective they are doing a great job, it sucks for players, but you definitely could understand them if you were in their position, greedy, but good for them (I'm not defending them as a company, but I'm kinda impressed by the fact that they are always getting away with their business model, but Valve exists, so there is an even better example)

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                  • Don’t forget the “new” raids like Kings fall and Vault of Glass (which they charged money for..again). This company is lazy af. They’re idea of hard? Endlessly spawning Harpies that shoot purple lasers at you while you have zero cover. [spoiler]Yeah Bungie, that’s “hard”. I think you need to get off the pronouns and own up to your incompetence[/spoiler]

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                    • Irony is that you are guilty of that yoo with your bad post Do actual player still take you seriously ?

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                      • I've said it before and I'll say it again: The Bungie I met in Halo: Combat Evolved would NEVER do crap like this. Increasing the difficulty so much on so many things, re-issuing/recycling content that we already paid for, they might as well be spitting in our faces when they do -Blam!- like this.

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                        • At this point, I'm convinced Bungie is breaking some laws. You can't remove something that customers have paid for and then sell it back to them at a later date? Absolutely disgusting behaviour from Bungie. They've decimated their reputation and will never be trusted again by the gaming community. Their new game "Matter" will suffer because no one can trust them.

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                          • Surprise, you get…..wait….wait…Loaded Question. Yeah!!!!! Wait a minute. I already have it….Mhhh. Yep, I am going to wait until Lightfall drops to 10-15 bucks. Back to Tina’s Tiny World where loot is at least entertaining. This is travesty, I sweated to get these guns. Bungie spits on my time invested. Now I spit at them.

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                            • I don't mind reissue to a certain extent but when I start seeing the same weapon model 4-5 times with a different color scheme then I have a problem with it even more so if you remove it from the game and bring it back to charge me again for it Especially if you have thousands of unused weapon models from D1 and D2 let's be honest it shouldn't be that hard to actually alter a existing weapon model What disappointment me more it's 2023 why are we still using the same public events that been in the game since 2017 on new destinations 😑

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                              • This is why I chose not to pre-order this year until I seen what they were offering. I'm still a fan of the franchise, but Bungie has to sell the content to me after the disasters that was TWQ's post expansion content. Vote with your wallet.

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                                I'm glad we don't have to pay for it a second time

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                              • Honestly does it matter? These days I find people care more about the perks not the gear themselves, bungo can give us the ugliest looking weapon but with the best perks it can roll with and we will still use it.

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                                • This game has been turned into the proverbial cash cow...It's like Call of Duty...Just a re-skin of the same content over and over again. As long as the masses buy it and as long as the content creators hype it, it will be what it currently is.

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                                  • Edited by Mark, Scholar of Stars: 4/10/2023 11:08:57 AM
                                    You can't be robbed because you don't own it. It's Bungies property and they can do whatever they want. I know how this sounds but this is the truth, signed by a contract - executed from the moment on you go ingame. I'm not a friend of it, and especially as a designer for classical media and illustration I'm "shocked" how often they reuse content but it looks like that it's possible in this industry, even if it is a no go in advertising. Maybe Bungie is recycling all those polygons because of limitations of their engine, and economy or greed; only they know but I'm very sure they will not change. So make the best out of it or move on to something better.

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                                    • 90% of the current player base started in Witch Queen. That’s why Bungie can reuse so much content. For most people it’s actually new. They found out 2-3 years ago that they don’t actually retain many players long term and largely bank on hordes of new players with every major content release. It’s basically not worth playing Destiny for more than 2 years if this bothers you. That’s about the length of the cycle before you’ll be part of the reused camp.

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                                      • I like the phrase "Renew, reuse, and recycle" more for describing this company of snake oil merchants.

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                                      • Destiny not getting proper quality dev time means it's not worth spending money on

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