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1/26/2023 2:41:50 PM
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Legacy focusing costs

Hi there I'm just saying there needs to be a change already to the legacy focusing costs. 3 engrams to decrypt into a set of old armor seems extreme for nightfall weapons it makes sense but not for armor

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  • The armour focusing cost for Trials an Iron banner needs addressing because something that can only be played at weekends an iron banner only shows up 2 times a season now so why do both of these activities have the same cost as something like Strikes/PvP/Gambit that are playable anytime you want. A much better cost should be 3 engrams per armour that’s like 1 full armour set per reset, the everyday activities can keep the 7 engram cost.

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    • I don’t think it’s unreasonable to have the costs be reduced for everything including the Armor, considering that’s content that we paid for be bought back after being sunset.

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    • I'm encouraging a boycott. Not on the game just on the legacy focusing. Give it a couple months of just not being used at all and they'll drop the costs to like 1,2,5 instead of 1,3,7. They want people to use new features otherwise it's just wasted coding time, wasted money. They always dial back and simplify if new stuff is getting ignored. Look at the evolution of weapon crafting.

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    • Its 3 if you already havd it 7 if you dont most people will be getting for transmog so 7 for each piece of armour is reddiculas

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    • Takes 2 full resets to unlock a set of armor. I'll just pass on the grind and unlock a piece or two, depending on how many times I rank up just by playing what I want. I usually do 1- 2 resets per season per vendor, except 3 for Vanguard maybe.

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      • Edited by gta5igrac: 1/27/2023 11:14:23 PM
        7 Trials Engrams is hell R.I.P not even doing it for stats, just instant dismantle

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        • I don't really care that much about the costs for the most part. What I want to know is how low they're going to set the adept nightfall cipher cap at? I could see them capping at like 10 so you could literally only focus one at a time. I would hope they'd cap it at like 150-200 so you can stockpile a lot for future focusing but I highly doubt it.

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        • Edited by Cinderchar: 1/27/2023 4:29:27 PM
          All you can do is stop interacting with it. They will lower the cost like they do everything else but you can'y interact with it or they will leave it the same. It doesn't even make sense for NF weapons either given none of the weapons there are any better than anything you can find throughout the game and you still have -blam!- RNG to go through. This is their initial desperate attempt to get people in reinvest in a mode they haven't changed in 6 years, but also without putting any effort into it. Just add a high cost to it. Bungie devs and designers are basically just mini suits at this point.

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        • Bungie: What if engrams were also a currency? 🤔 They’ve always had a moderation problem. They’ll reduce the cost if there’s enough backlash. Hopefully there will be enough of it. This game they seem to play where it seems like they’re testing what people will be ok with accepting instead of just trying to come up with something reasonable to star out with in the first place is annoying.

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          • If the engram system for the vendors are going to be the same as they currently are, screw focusing lol. Imagine how many resets would be needed to accumulate engrams to focus all of the legacy stuff (assuming that person wasn’t around for any of it when it came out originally). Even for those missing various pieces it’s way expensive. If engrams actually drop from strikes and are more readily available from the vendor then I guess it wouldn’t be too bad. But we will have to see how this works out when it’s live. I would anticipate that they roll back these costs a bit though during lightfall.

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            • The main problem with this is the content isn't changing. They keep changing the systems without changing the content, and it's really not helping the game. They want us to grind out reputation for Vanguard to acquire the engrams, yet strikes/Nightfalls are not changing. They are the same old strikes we have had for years. It's just so mind numbing at this point. They can't keep changing the systems without the actual core activities. If they want to change the systems like this, they should at least throw in a bunch of new strikes. Bring some of the ones they took away back and add more enemies/change boss mechanics. Add more enemy density to ALL existing strikes. Give us back the skeleton keys with boss themed strike specific loot. Why do they just keep changing the systems? Like, who's going to sit in Trials grinding out engrams when the reputation goes up at such a slow pace? Trials needs to change as a whole. Strikes need to change. GM's need to change. After the first 5 or 6 ranks, the reputation takes FOREVER. Who in the hell is actually going to be grinding that old strike playlist for vanguard rep? Mine barely hits max rank over an entire 3 month season. I don't even touch Trials because of how awful it is right now. GM's are completely pointless because they continue to re-add trash weapons nobody ever uses like The Swarm, the neutered version of Mindbenders, and a Hung Jury that is outclassed by many other scout rifles at this point. A big problem with the game is they think changing systems, sandbox updates, etc, are content, but they keep forgetting to update and change the actual content! What good is a system change or sandbox update if we're just running the same old stuff we were running a year ago? It's effin boring!

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            • I think the new system is cool, and I usually try to look for the good in Bungies changes to D2 (all the negativity is exhausting). However, I'm struggling to look at this legacy focusing system and not wince at the engram costs. Adept weapons are going to cost 7 engrams... I'm going to repeat that cause it bares repeating: 7 ENGRAMS for an Adept weapon! 7 Engrams?!? We can only even carry 10 at a time PER ACCOUNT and you're going to charge 10? It better be raining engams. I'm not buying any Adept weapons til after the inevitable price drop when they see nobody is using this feature. This 1, 3, 7, engram cost breakdown isn't going to work. Especially if they're all going to be activity specific. It's going to be worse than the shards cost for IB gear before they retooled it. I see it settling into a 1, 3, 5 breakdown but ideally I'd like to see 1, 2, 3. I don't know why loot focusing has to feel so punitive.

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              • Just one of many great reasons not to buy the dlc. DLC! That’s funny considering the whole year costs more than a new AAA title, and comes with less actual content than many AAA titles.

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                • Those of us who had it ripped away from us in D1 should be allowed to re-obtain it tbh. Still wearing it in D1 as we speak for both my warlock and hunter, D2 trials is utter sh!te so I avoid it like the plague.

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                • I was excited to get the exile trials set for my 3 guardians. To my surprise there is no way I will have enough resources to get the full sets....

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                  • I predict bungie will change the cost before lightfall. I have the exile sets, but still, 3 is too high. 7 is ridiculous.

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                    • Edited by Rainbine 9545: 1/26/2023 8:58:45 PM
                      Imagine if you didn’t have the armour already, 7 is quite alot as well

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                      • It's armor you've never obtained. Spend 3 once and than it's 1 from than on. Sounds fair to me.

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                        Tell Aztecross to mention that in his next Twitter comment to Bungie

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                      • It'll change, just relax. Like everything Bungo puts out, it's OP or expensive or overly complicated at first then BAMM!! 2 seasons later and it's throw everything at everyone. In typical Bungo fashion they've over stepped thier mark again.

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                        • I'm glad someone notice hell if you don't have the set that's like 35 engrams for a full set and that also depends on how often they drop

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                          • As it currently stands, I will be hard pressed to find any incentive to actually use this Legacy focusing feature. Typical Bungie fashion in that it's more convoluted than it needs to be and the return on investment for the cost to do one focus is not worth it when you are taking a chance that you'll even end up with a roll that you would use.

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                          • Edited by BOSSNONO254: 1/26/2023 11:15:20 PM
                            Honestly the focusing cost seems reasonable enough at least for me since it’s for loot that can’t be acquired anymore. Especially for loot that was not in someone’s collections already. But with that said, there needs to be higher rank multiplayers for specific activities to allow for more engrams to be rewarded for activities like iron banner and trials of Osiris. Maybe have more frequent double xp weeks for crucible, trials, gambit, and vanguard to alleviate some of the grind for the more tedious activities to rank up in to get their respective engrams flowing.

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                          • I’m fine with it. Only if they increase the amount of engrams we can agree.

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