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Edited by ProbablyJosh:
9/27/2021 10:55:14 PM
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The harsh truth a lot of you need. (Trials)
Hard to swallow pills : you all refused to play the mode before and now expect yourselves to suddenly be great at it. On top of this you assumed match making meant you'd suddenly start winning even though you're bad at the game mode. Furthermore for God knows what reason you haven't learnt that lesson yet so you think freelance means you a bad player will suddenly start winning. No if you're bad you're bad and you need to practice to get better.
No trials isn't for the sweat Lords anymore, you can literally get all the rewards aside from adept weapons and mods while losing constantly. Bungie made fantastic changes you all just refuse to practice, refuse to take the blame for loses often blaming your team of randoms or accusing the enemies of cheating or no lifing.
Most of all a lot of you actively refuse to use any form of lfg as well as never using fire team voice chat during games effectively shooting yourself in the foot from the get go, and then you're shocked you lose more than you win.
This season bungie is not to blame, sweats are not to blame, streamers and content creators are not to blame, YOU are to blame.
Edit : I want to throw this in here because I did not expect even 1 reply let alone the hundreds it's getting and I have no intention of replying back aside from this edit. Soooooo many of you are quick to get triggered and miss understand the tone of the post.
(Shout out to the large amount of people that have left positive comments I see you <3)
Anyways the clarification is this; there is nothing wrong with being bad we all sucked when we started and that's a fact, the problem is the majority actively refuse to put any time at all into practice in order to improve and instead immediately rush here to complain. Not 1 single time did I ever say opening up to solo and duo players was bad for trials idk why you people think the "1t W4s DyiNg B3fOrE s0loS gOt L3t iN" is a valid argument here given that's not in the slightest the thing I'm addressing. Yes it was dying, yes I'm happy with the population increase, but your attitudes are gonna just kill it again.
And finally arguably most importantly something I left out of the original post cos it was already longer than I wanted it to be; match making exists in trials purely as a form of practicing, introducing you to the game mode, and warming up before joining a team that is all. Is it possible to solo a ton of wins? Yes. Will the average player be able to do so? No. Can you solo flawless? Yes. Should the average player expect a solo flawless? No.
Ayo I final thing why so many replies being like "bro the changes were good" yeah my dude I straight up said in the post the changes bungie made are fantastic lmao we agreeing
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Trials this season has been better than I ever believed it would be. I’ve never been flawless and the last time I played Trials was for an armor glow where I just had to get 7 wins cumulatively and not consecutively, so I kept resetting the passage at like 1-2 wins, which still took like 30 games. I was looking forward to the solo queue. Figured so many others were too, so I would have a pretty good statistical chance of being matched against other solo players most of the time. Making it just a bit easier to get the occasional win. I didn’t realize the opportunity for loot would be as good as it has been. The could have a win rate of 30% at best, but I still feel like I got showered in loot. I love being able to target farm for certain loot too. I feel like I got seasons worth of loot in a weekend. I do think the matchmaking could ease up a bit at times. Maybe give me a break where I’m not only facing flawless stacks, getting stomped for more consecutive losses than I have wins all weekend. But I’ve gotten so much loot that I don’t mind that I’ve surely made getting to the lighthouse easier for plenty of teams.
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Not sure what you are referring to here but I find trials a lot more enjoyable now that the changes are in. And this weekend with the cap point was fun as well. I am not a big PvP player but find it a lot more enjoyable now not getting destroyed every match and getting opponents that are 2+ KD stacked team. I would not matter how much I played or practiced I would never get to that level. Loving the trials changes.
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While I agree with you to a point, it is also important to remember that in Cozmo’s own words a healthy solo population is key to Trials being in a good state (see this last weeks TWAB) Which means that A) the loot incentive needs to be there, and B) the matchmaking needs to take these solos into account, or what will happen is all these players will get frustrated, leave, and never come back, which basically leaves trials in the same state it was in prior to the solos coming in. Now do people need to realize that this is THE endgame PVP mode, and that they Do need to work a bit to improve? absolutely. (Hell I’m TERRIBLE I freely admit that) but I’m learning a bit every match. It’s a tough balancing act, and It will take time to figure out, hopefully all the solos don’t up and walk away before they nail it down.
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Edited by ln Between Days: 9/29/2021 5:03:01 AMI’m extremely bad at Trials and appreciate how this season’s changes have made it at least playable for me as it’s an intriguing PvP mode. I’ll prob never go flawless, but I’m happy to enjoy it for a bit on Sundays and stagger after 50 round wins. It’s weird, though—there aren’t many close matches. Either I’m dead before I can blink or I run through the other team like they’re dregs. Seems like that aspect of matchmaking could be better?
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Finally someone says it, what you said is easy to prove with this past weekend, players actually had to play a Objective and PvP players did well but the people who play control like TDM lost badly. And it reflected on the fourms
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You are spot on. The fact that this recieved down votes proves that the majority are pedantic give me a trophy for doing nothing people.
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AYO this guy speakin facts doh
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Definitely agreed
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Well said
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1 ReplyYep practice and using coms is really important. I'm enjoying the process so far. I really want people to use game chat. It'd be a positive culture shift for the community
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Yes!!!!!
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I've liked all the changes made so far this season with trials. Can't wait to see what else they change through out the season. Keep it up Bungie 👍
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You are correct good sir.
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1 ReplyOP, your fine wasn't misunderstood. It was all over your first post. You could've just posted something like the edit, made the same points and not come off that way. I'm a PvE main who just played my first Trials in the last two seasons. I partied up with a friend and we got stomped every time but we had some laughs and got a few pieces of loot. Not everyone is up in arms about that s.
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Edited by WafflyFlash89: 9/28/2021 3:15:40 AMActually I played Trails in D1 and the start or D2 but my clan mates stopped playing Destiny 2. I’m not that social of a person so this was a great chance for me to jump back in, I expect to loose more than win but I’m just happy they made it matchmaking
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Oh yeah the changes are great. And you're right. There are too many people who have this warped sense of scrub mentality that just seem to think that just because matchmaking has been added they won't go against good players. Like...you still need to do the work...
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4 RepliesA lot of excuses down in the comments lmaoooo
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Heh I mean you’re totally right. Let’s go look at freelance comp shall we? Because that’s not a total -blam!- show. Let them blame the mode though lmaooo
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….ok This guardian is partially right tho.
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I love you.
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1 ReplyIronically enough, adding a freelance mode would actually hurt the state of the game more. Decreasing the player pool would in fact make things that much harder to achieve. Despite this everyone still has this crazy idea they will excel in freelance mode when rather you open yourself up to the following… more bad teammates, even worse chance at going flawless, shrinking the overall player pool for an unneeded playlist, and just making things more complicated for PvP.
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I don't understand all the negative comments about this post. i mean this is the gospel truth. It's not even a very mean way to put it. if you want to be good at something, practice and you will get better, and don't complain that people who have practised more are better at it. i mean that's obvious isn't it? And I am not a sweatlord or very good at pvp. I can hold my own but can't do fa against a good player. i 1v1-d some of my friends who are good at pvp, and it proved to me that I have space to improve. I suggest you do the same. its a good reality check. And then come back here and read this post again.
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Edited by Lan1: 9/28/2021 2:25:53 PMSeeing these replies makes me see how OP really struck a nerve with you guys, and thus proved his point exquisitely.
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I've played a little bit as a 2 stack this season, not much but enough to notice a couple of patterns. 1. People don't play with their team, at all. 2. People run double primaries. If you're unwilling to play as a team and you keep doing the exact same thing every round and wonder why you're losing, you're the problem. If you're running double primaries, you are literally asking to lose. You can be very good with your primaries but when facing any special weapon, you have no right to complain when you lose to them. Now, I see alot of people assuming that all 3 stacks are sweats and that makes no -blam!- sense. Most 3 stacks are just people trying to do exactly the same think you are, they just have a team. Bungie have given everyone an option they didn't have before. Find a team OR play solo at your own risk. They added a way for all to earn loot regardless of wins/losses and team/solo yet rather than be grateful for that, you complain that you're playing stacks. Of course you're playing stacks, that was always part of the deal and no amount of screaming will change that unless Bungie decide in a few weeks that the freelance playlist doesn't do more harm than good for the ENTIRE playerbase. Thats right, Bungie are looking to find a balance for everyone, not just catering to 3 stacks like people think and not just solo's like some people feel they're owed. Solo players are being rewarded already, its just not enough for some and it never will be. Freelance will still not be enough, the same people complaining now will continue to do so. "My team sucks", "these games are unfair", etc. Some of these complaints are fair and understandable but for the most part, they will all be what you signed up for.
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1 ReplyThe worst part is; people have that “cod” mindset. “If im good in cod that should transfer too all games, it’s just a bad game”.... Right now this whole “we need SBMM” crap is horrible... bad players will continue to stay bad because they’re never challenged and the higher skilled will continue too grow. Even the best of the best can learn and normally ARE WILLING TOO LEARN... I tried explaining this too my pve friends and they just shut me down saying “well you’re already good at the game”.. if only they knew how many times I needed to get dumped on in scrims to even advance and get better. -love the post and the HONEST hard truth people can’t seem too accept in D2 PvP.
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2 RepliesTbh I’m grateful to be able to play trials again only thing I’d like to change is the skill queuing. It’s annoying when your teammates can’t get a kill let alone aim straight enough to assist you lol. It’s about what you can expect though, how often do you get evenly matched randoms in regular crucible or banner?? I played D1 heavy and with a competitive clan, had many squads to run with up until D2 beta but IRL BS took me away from gaming for years until recently which sucks. So yea it’s koo I like the changes for the most part(iffy on the control point spawns) but I miss going flawless and winning.
