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Edited by TheRealBigC_:
10/20/2016 5:50:21 PM
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All Known HM Wrath of the Machine Changes
[b]In General:[/b]
1) More and different loot drops.
2) Enemies are higher light level. (Recommended Light Level is 380, everything including and past the second Vosik encounter is 390).
3) No revives (excluding self-resurrection).
4) Encounters that featured chests needing SIVA Cache Keys (Vosik, Siege Engine, Aksis Phase 2) will now spawn 2 chests, both requiring SIVA cache keys. The ones we're used to contain NM loot, whereas the new ones are a different colour and contain HM loot.
[b]New Loot:[/b]
[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Armory/Detail?type=item&item=3569444312&itemname=ZEAL%20VECTOR~]ZEAL VECTOR~[/url]
[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Armory/Detail?type=item&item=2001493563&itemname=EX%20MACHINA~]EX MACHINA~[/url]
[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Armory/Detail?type=item&item=242628276&itemname=IF%20MATERIA~]IF MATERIA~[/url]
[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Armory/Detail?type=item&item=3632330099&itemname=STEEL%20MEDULLA~]STEEL MEDULLA~[/url]
[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Armory/Detail?type=item&item=2154053164&itemname=FEVER%20AND%20REMEDY~]FEVER AND REMEDY~
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[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Armory/Detail?type=item&item=2436994446&itemname=Amalgam%20Shell]Amalgam Shell[/url]
Additionally, HM exclusive "Spliced" armour has been introduced. This is the same as the NM armour, except they're different colours, and HM armour can have [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Armory/Detail?item=2634463554&itemname=Perfected%20Ornament]Perfected Ornaments[/url] inserted into them, causing them to glow with SIVA. However, I don't think anyone has found a Perfected Ornament yet; best guess is that they drop from Challenge Mode.
[b]Opening the Door:[/b]
I have heard reports that the Voltage Eaters spawn slightly faster.
[b]Vosik, the Archpriest:[/b]
1) 6 SIVA charges have to be thrown instead of 3.
2) 1 big monitor lights up and has to be shot more than usual.
3) Safe room doors are half-closed, so you need to slide into them.
[b]Siege Engine:[/b]
After a certain amount of time has passed, a Perfected Walker will spawn in front of the Siege Engine while you're trying to deliver the parts.
[b]Aksis, Phase 1:[/b]
There are 2 SIVA turrets on the ceiling, and one on Aksis' platform that will shoot at you. They can be disabled for 20 seconds by shooting them. These disappear before Phase 2.
[b]Aksis, Archon Prime:[/b]
9 Elemental Servitors spawn instead of the usual 3, and 7 SIVA charges need to be thrown at Aksis to trigger teleport. It should be noted that spare SIVA charges can be used to destroy Elemental Servitors.
I will edit this post as new info comes to light. Keep this bumped, guardians.
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You forgot to add that the Siege Engine moves MUCH MUCH faster than normal mode. Remember running from it in normal then looking back to see it and admiring how cool it is? You can't do that anymore, because Thomas the Siege Engine has no brakes.
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2 RepliesSiva HM sword? Just curious.
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22 RepliesEdited by Cypher02xd: 10/19/2016 4:37:00 PMI posted this in a comment chain below but maybe others will find it useful so here's the suggestions I came up with and how we completed everything. Take it for what you will: [quote]My biggest suggestions would be to have one person in each team at Vosik have a sword to make quick work of the captains. If you run middle like I do, stay back behind the containers for cover! When the bombs drop wipe out the first wave of adds then everyone sprint for the bombs and quickly throw them. The faster they are thrown the quicker you can get back to ad control and be able to safely snipe down the monitor. Here's a trick I came up with at Vosik for easy extra damage: on the 3rd time of throwing bombs (the one that would drop his shield), INTENTIONALLY only throw 5 bombs. Here's why: if you do so then you can drop his shield with only 3 bombs on the next go. This will leave you with 3 additional bombs to hit him with! Each bomb for me was doing 123,000 damage so that's 369,000 dmg that is almost free each time! That amounts to 1,107,000 dmg done to Vosik with the extra bombs alone in three cycles of dropping his shields. Add in the two bombs per damage cycle and you can do a whopping 1,845,000 dmg with bombs ALONE (3 bombs at the beginning of each damage phase + the two that drop at the end of it) While it's true that it extends the fight a little, we found it to be worth it and easily 3 cycled him. Zamboni: we did this first shot in 4minutes 38 seconds. Use swords, if you aren't carrying parts then you should be killing everything with them. Pop supers as much as you can to chain them. Snipe the walker down as soon as it drops. It doesn't have a ton of health, it's just there to inconvenience you. Phase 1: The turrets have a pretty short range to them. DO NOT SHOOT OUT THE TURRETS UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO KILL THE CAPTAINS Once the turret is down you have finite amount of time without it coming back, capitalize on this time to kill the captain. If you are throwing your charge, WATCH THAT TURRET AT ALL TIMES so you can snipe it out as soon as it comes back otherwise it will come back and -blam!- your day up Phase 2: Don't be a dumbie. Staying alive is more important than anything. Call out servitors as soon as you see them, count the charges as they hit him so you know when the seventh one is going to down his shield. If you down his shield when people aren't ready you might cause a wipe due to an empowered person not being in position.[/quote]
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7 RepliesEdited by Pope: 10/20/2016 2:22:22 AMVossik = hurricane Matthew shutters and bigger hd tv . Engine = dank tank . Faze 1 = turtles . Faze 2 = Servitor party
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4 RepliesHonestly, my team spent more time on vosiks than any other part. Those adds -blam!- you.
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234 RepliesSelf Rez I feel should be charged for hard mode, not crying for warlocks just that's should a cheap way to allow bad players to still take part of hard mode or any challenge. Other two classes mess up were done, I use my bubble and make orbs for days but everyone holds onto their supers and are selfish. I know self rez is half the duration but still I feel it's abused, it needs some other limit or change to it. Maybe I'm out of line but I have a lock, I main Titan and am skilled and don't have such a ability to have as a crutch. It's not the same as a bubble lot of the times when you die it can be you waiting for the right time to use supers because your waiting for the perfect time to kill and make orbs. Self Rez is just used too much as a crutch and not used with making orbs in mind, it just makes people weak.
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22 RepliesEdited by Cryos Knight: 10/20/2016 3:27:51 PMExotics from the "hidden" chests seem to be capped at 385 light. At least all the exotics our team got were all 385 and we were all higher than that light level. EDIT: Well from replies it seems that you can get higher than 385 light exotics from at least some of the chests. My teams have opened 6 chests and have not found one yet. The reports keeps my hope up.
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Anything new happen if you do monitors?
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11 RepliesEasy raid, was hopping for a bigger challenge...
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3 RepliesAnyone have a picture of the Red Miasma warlock armor with the perfected ornament? I've been wearing for it but just can't seem to find a good picture of anything.
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5 RepliesIs Steel Medulla working for anybody? I cannot the perk to activate for the life of me.
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20 RepliesThat awkward moment when you're a toadfish and you hear a dolphin pop
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4 RepliesMy team wasn't expecting the exotic chests to only yield 385 exotics.
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4 RepliesWent through 3 groups one phase 1 last night. First 2 groups I died ONCE by a turret cause I was trying to throw and nobody was paying attention. After countless wipes and ppl giving up I join a group who wanted a 392+ and me being 387 they tell me I can stay if I don't die...after 10 wipes and me not dying once and them dying countless times and giving up I gave up for the night. It's really not hard to stay alive ppl. Just be aware duh. 75% of the ppl I played with last night were warlocks to using self Rez as a crutch cause they can't stay alive. I'm a hunter and have zero trouble. Smh
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I don't mean to be "that guy," but you spelt "amalgam" wrong. For anyone who cares, its meaning is "combination/mixture of different things."
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27 RepliesCant wait to only get the sidearm
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They should have made the most obvious change. Every Fallen enemy (excluding servitors and shanks) now spawn a revenge bomb on death. Even if you didn't get a headshot.
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To be completely honest, this new hard raid sounds more fun than vault of glass hard raid. That HARD RAID didn't change much to make it harder.
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I am best raider of all time Thank you
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25 RepliesEveryone says this shit is easy, yet my group isn't even able to beat Vosik. It seems impossbile for many players to get the bombs and threw them simultaneously without dying through the adds. It there a trick?
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21 RepliesAnyone else have shield of the city? Emblem on my titan
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2 Replies8? Isn't it 8 charges at AKSIS?
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3 Replies#buffthorn
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1 ReplyEdited by mpuchar: 10/19/2016 7:01:01 PMSo, can you get one set of hm drops without using a key on each cp
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The turrets were one of the biggest problems my group faced, do not under-estimate them lol
