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Edited by Violet Varlerie: 7/12/2016 10:50:02 PM
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In April, Bungie said they weren't touching Viking Funeral because it would ruin the class...

Then they touched it and ruined the class. As of now, Viking Funeral is useless. Also, this burn "bug" hurts the class even more. It's been what, a month now? I think that it was an intended nerf. Sunsingers aren't dead, but their neutral game took a huge hit. Since their neutral game is also their super game, their super game took a hard hit too. This spoiler is what I think about the classes currently. [spoiler]Voidwalker: 6/8 neutral, 6/8 super, 12/16 overall Stormcaller: 5/8 neutral, 7/8 super 12/16 overall Sunsinger: 5/8 neutral, 4/8 super, 9/16 overall Nightstalker: 6/8 neutral, 4/8 super, 10/16 overall Bladedancer: 5/8 neutral, 6/8 super, 11/16 overall Gunslinger: 5/8 neutral, 8/8 super, 13/16 overall Defender: 5/8 neutral 5/8 super, 10/16 overall Sunbreaker: 6/8 neutral, 6/8 super, 12/16 overall Striker: 8/8 neutral, 6/8 super, 14/16 overall [b]Warlocks: 33/48 Hunters: 34/48 Titans: 36/48[/b][/spoiler] People saying: [quote]Viking Funeral is still good![/quote] https://youtu.be/-lJfVGOIdx4 No it isn't.
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  • How can a nade that takes you out of the game for 15 seconds be "neutral", I mean, what does neutral game mean in that case?

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    • Firebolt, viking funeral, touch of flame was to much for us and everyone knew it. Bungie did the right thing as sunsingers still can get a double nade and one ready every spawn if they choose to wear the voidfang vestments.

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    • The class isn't dead. Builds focused around burning are dead. Try using different setups.

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      • Hey, your the guy that got me banned!

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      • Your time is up warlock... [spoiler]jk nerf warlocks[/spoiler]

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      • You know what's funny? I watch streamers who used to say "omg firebolts" and now that they are nerfed all I hear now is "omg skip grenade" lol

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        • 💦🔥

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        • Sunsinger use to be fun 🔥🔫

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          • I've been using double fusion grenades for nearly two years. I never really used firebolts

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          • I am very happy about the heavy nerf, now I don't have to feel forced to play a certain class when in competitive situations. I always hated the "why aren't you running Sunsinger. Firebolts and self res dude" being a voidwalker main.

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          • I didn't particularly care about the hit to the burn. I thought the DPS bonus would be cool. It only lasts for 2 seconds and gives a tiny bonus. Then I saw how Solar Grenades now do less DPS, damge ticks don't stack from multiple Grenades and are just all round trash. I don't see myself using it unless for the Self-rez utility for Raids.

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          • I'm also bummed about the warlock firebolt nerfs. But maybe entering this giveaway for an elite controller will cheer you up?! https://gleam.io/Khl7F/microsoft-elite-controller-giveaway

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            • you got hit hard solar grenades i just walk threw them and res kill on a warlock way to easy now i use to love sun breakers and solar grenades but now i am back on my striker titan until that get's hit bungie sure do know how to suck the fun out of a ounce fun game

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            • I'm pretty sure they said in an interview they didn't want to just touch Viking Funeral without taking into account other perks. Which is why they changed a few things around in the class update.

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            • dood , do you ever run double fusion grenades? Nothing is ruined on this class

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            • I have a problem with how the "new" Viking Funeral affects Solar grenades, makes them kinda worthless now.

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            • Bump. Should have been left alone. The class is worthless compared to what it was. And for what? To make a bunch of fuçking pimple faced kids happy? Guess what? It was more balanced before. Unfuçkitup Bungie.

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              • You know what happened, they didn't want to nerf it, but the community wanted it to be nerfed. Bungie then listened to the community. Now people are crying because it got nerfed?

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                • I was one of those people who thought it needed a nerf. So, did I want it nerfed? Absolutely. But did I want sunsingers to take a huge hit? Nope, definitely not. I feel like if they hadn't changed the perk itself and only nerfed how much damage the burn did, it would've been fine. My opinion on Firebolt grenades with the burn effects that it would put out, in tandem with Viking funeral and the other perk (forgot the name), were way too much for how easy it was to use. Something like the old firebolts shouldn't be as effective if it's going to be that easy to use. And they were definitely the go-to grenade for Sunsingers. What I mean by that is it seemed like it was very rare for people to use either of the other grenades in the class. I don't feel like there should be one ability to dominate them all, I feel like they should all be equally effective. But now almost no one uses Firebolts, so some buffing adjustments clearly need to be made.

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                  • People saying try doing different set up is stupid. 3 things and now 2 are trash and left only 1 (Fusion). Try? Try what? Is there a choice? They were good and now they are ruined because of bad decision making by Bungie and people say go to the last option as a "change"? lol....

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                    • When did they say this? I can't remember, would someone mind posting a link for me to wherever they said this?

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                      • Why would you rank night stalker super only 4/8...

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                      • The only time I'm ever going to use sunsinger now is for the first few times I go through the new raid

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                      • Please just don't use firebolts.Sunsingers are still good.

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                      • Gunslinger vs Striker neutrals show what an absolute brick licker you are, thank Jebus you're not balancing the classes, you have NO IDEA, grass munching imbecile. Warlock fire game/advantage was severely OP as it was, hell I enjoyed buggering about with it, nerf was much needed, justified, and the game is much better for it now. Cry some more that your only class has a reduced clutch, you might actually have to use a weapon.

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                      • Viking funeral is way better in pve now I've mained a voidwalker since day 1 and am glad about the changes it makes wearing the sunbreakers and running radiant skin in pve tons of fun

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