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1/16/2016 7:45:28 PM
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Bungie, Can You Nerf Shotguns? I Mean, They Have Had 4 Nerfs And Nothing Has Changed
shotguns on this game are easy to get kills with, they are cheap kills and just every annoying to play against on crucible. i know everyone who votes no will be the ones who use shotguns but at least realise that shotguns are very easy to get kills with. any noob can pick a shotgun up and use it like a pro. try using a sniper and realise the skill it takes to use a shotgun.
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5 RepliesI see what you're saying, and I don't like shotguns either, but I think the nerfs were a little overkill. I know that people will probably attack me for this, but I think shotguns should two-shot. Enough impact for two blasts to kill, and not enough for a shotgun-melee. Shotgun-melees are pretty unskilled, and I harbor much hatred for those who developed that as a reflex. It's cheap. If you were to do this change, it'd help a ton. Now, a buff would be in order too. Give them much more range than we have now, and near its max range it would three shot to prevent things like Fourth Horseman from being the tool of shotgun rushers everywhere.
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AGAIN WITH THE PENIS POLLS THIS IS IMPORTANT!!!
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Do we [b][i]really need[/i][/b] to post year 1 shotgun ranges in crucible / Iron Banner to show you there's actually a big difference?
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2 RepliesNope shotguns take more skill than ever, stop the nerfs.
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Shotguns are fine. They do their job, but special ammo needs a nerf in crucible, just reduce the amount you receive, time it takes for a crate to spawn, and don't have specials start with ammo. fusion rifle damage needs to be brought up to compensate. Other than that the specials are mostly balanced.
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5 RepliesEdited by Spicy Goodnesss: 1/21/2016 4:27:31 PMJust learn to counter shotguns with snipers. Don't listen to the "conspiracy theories" saying that it's not possible ;)
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I used to use shotguns until the buff. The range is way down and if you are consistently being killed by a shotgun you need to access your strategy.
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12 RepliesSign here if you're a shotgun user and see that shotguns are extremely inconsistent and need a partial buff. No more leaving guardians on 1HP after hitting them with a shot 3 ft away.
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There'd be less arguing of we could just have gnashers.
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I'm sorry your ass got blasted whilst hard scoping b-flag. Maybe zoidberg still has some butthurt cream for you.
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Shotguns in a whole never needed a nerf. They just need to get rid of the stupid things for them like shot package (which they did - thank god) Felwinters, and now this bitch ass Conspiracy Theory the Vanguards just handed out to everyone. It's obvious things like those that HAVE to be fixed. But if I get close enough for my low impact and range high rate of fire burden of proof I deserve to do what a shotgun is designed to do. Oh, and shottys definitely require more concentration than snipers. Shottys have to worry about not closing gaps as expected, blink, basically any super(ie. Nova bomb, fist of havok, shadowshot) then there's guys jumping overhead that really screws up an aim. I can use any type of secondary pretty proficiently (other than fusions. Seem stupid to me) and sniping is definitely the easier of all.
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Edited by Viron117: 1/21/2016 4:21:54 PMNo. Just no. Shotguns have been nerfed, and nerfed, and nerfed, and they still "aren't nerfed enough" apparently. You know why? Its not because shotguns are that good. its because literally everything else (and you) are just that bad. First of those two, every other gun. Most guns have been nerfed overall, and its lowered them all, thus making shotguns not as bad by comparison. Second, the first point isn't even that much of one, because shotguns have been nerfed that much that hard. Third, the second of the original points, you are still consistently dying to the most nerfed gun type in the game that you come here and want it nerfed? "Git gud" as people would say, "any noob can pick a shotgun up and use it like a pro" Well, considering there is an extremely limited range that they can be effectively used, there's really only one way to use it; not to mention that the way things are going, you would continue to call for nerfs to shotguns regardless of how much they are nerfed and call users of shotguns noobs. Stop calling for nerfs, start calling for buffs. If other guns are just better than shotguns instead of shotguns just being worse, maybe then things might work out better.
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Less range than most melee hits, way less than warlock melee.... Says it all, they're fine, if in fact the above statement makes sense for the weapon type they're meant to represent.....
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Let nerf an entirely over nerfed gun yaaaaaa- OP And people say hunters are the only ones to call nerfs.
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I see no difference with shotguns for me. I'm so used to landing headshots with the chaperone that everytime I use a different shotgun and aim for the head I kill them on one shot. Now Shotguns need a little skill to use them. Except the Chaperone, you need great skill to use that weapon
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shotguns are supposed to be powerful, it's supposed to be a close quarters killing machine. range on them is fine everything about them is fine i bet you want havok pigeon nerfed too? "oh no, i got killed in the crucible, BUNGIE NERF EVERYTHING NOW BECAUSE I SUCK AT THIS GAME"
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2 RepliesI guess they should have them shot out flowers and if it is so easy to be like a pro grab a shotgun shut the fuk up and show us lol. You just suck plan and simple.
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4 RepliesI said no, and I barely ever use shotguns. Before TTK, shotguns were actually too OP and could kill you from pretty far for a shotty. That last nerf? The problem was gone before that, so really was just major overkill on shotties. You're an embarrassment dude. I barely see people use shotties anymore, how the f are you getting killed by them so much?? I feel bad for people who use shotties now. It definitely takes more skill than sniping by far, know how I know? Cause I can snipe like a beast but can't shotty for shit most of the time... Can't believe I'm about to say this.... Get good noob
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Edited by Servanious: 1/21/2016 4:14:21 PM"OMG, shotguns one shot me from TWO feet away! The shotguns are more powerful than pre-nerf HoS! Bungie, nerf them NOW!!!"~ OP But seriously, it's your fault that you keep on running into a guy with a shotgun. It's also your fault that you suck at the game.... So yeah.
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I switch back and forth with shotgun and snipers all the time (depending on what map and subclass I am running). I can say that each has its own form of simplicities and difficulties. I find using shotguns for run and gun or for guerrilla warfare to be more fun than sitting back and sniping people from afar though.
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3 RepliesAs ive said before nothing about the gunplay will EVER be balanced in pvp. Bungies "we want every gun to be able to counter every other gun" mentality is the biggest issue. You cant/shouldnt do it. Having handguns MOST of the time outgun an auto is for 1..is stupid and 2..it leads to a whole new set of problems. Heres what i propose.. Shotguns - strongest damage from melee range and closer / yet they can be beat by every other weapon type past melee range. Thatll stop these run n gun players. Shotguns will be used more for how theyre MEANT to be. I mean SUURREEE the idea of handguns competing with autos and fusions, snipers etc etc SOUNDS great..but its far too complicated to pull off.
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Grammar please. Also, they're at least helpful in keeping the game moving. Snipers you often just die without the slightest clue what happened. The nerf makes shotguns weak without specific builds, essentially you now need blink to make them effective. Bungie actually ended up encouraging the play they were trying to prevent...
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HAHA! NO. Im a sniper kind of guy. Trust me. Shotguns need to be buffed.
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1 ReplyOp basically rushes and when he dies to a shotgun he dies. Rinses, repeats, gets angry, creates salty tears filled rage post on forums to try to get the other salty tears filled scrubs to cry with him.
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8 RepliesOh for -blam!- sakes! Shotguns barely have any range left the way it is, im getting sick of all you crybabies asking to nerf shotguns even more just because you are too -blam!-ing retarded to stay out of shotgun range or have a look at your -blam!-ing map. Doing well with a shotgun takes just as much or even more skill then sitting in the back of the map and hardscoping with a 1k aim assist. Rant over
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Edited by Alvin Thwait: 1/19/2016 10:52:00 AMYes, Bungie please do destroy your game a little more. Moving a shotgun as if you're carrying small tank in your hands is too easy. Those poor guys who sit in the mountains on first light, bastion etc and snipe people from across the entire map are sick of having their highly skilled guardians aim assist thrown off kilter by having to use *gip* a PRIMARY weapon *voms in mouth* to defend themselves every now and again when a slow moving target tries to use a shotgun on them. Can you not make people with shotguns like 3 times bigger and move like Andre the Giant on heroine whenever they arm themselves? COME ON BUNGIE, YOUR WRECKING THE GAME FOR THOSE HIGHLY SKILLED SNIPERS!!
