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Edited by Obi Wan Cannoli: 12/27/2015 1:30:11 AM
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"Hard scoping" ... You mean Sniping?

Go back to Call of Duty kiddies who call sniping "hard scoping". You're not fooling anyone, we know you're awful. Standing back and aimed is sort of the entire point of the weapon class.
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  • Obi Wan gets it. 'Hard scoping' is actual sniping. Holding ground in a hidden placement, taking aim, adjusting, gently pulling the trigger, and watching for the pink mist.....that's sniping. That's what sniping is all about. 'Real' snipers don't run around with their weapon at the ready. 'Real' snipers don't go charging in with their weapon up. 'Real' snipers punish idiots who do these things. So, anyone complaining about 'hard scoping' has absolutely no idea what 'real' sniping is. It's definitely not 'quickscoping'. That's about as much skill as pointing a shotgun at random groups of enemies and pulling the trigger. Yeah, if you're close enough, or the little auto-aim is lined up, you'll get a hit.

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    • Hardscoping is fine. Its a sniper, knock yourself out. The fact of the matter is, any reject can sit aimed in at head level perfectly still, waiting for someone to come around a corner, letting the scope stick onto their skulls just long enough to react and tap a trigger for the easist kill in the game.... No counter to it. No aim required. Nothing. Just tap R2, realign, and keep waiting. Its what the bad snipers do, and theres tons of them, hence why its so rampant. THATS what annoys people. The fact that a trash player can dome you without moving his anolog stick, and feel all high and mighty under the illusion of being a skilled shot. The good snipers are fair game. Its the aim assist fishing, double body shot, mediocre snipers that infest crucible.

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      • Hard scoping simply means aiming down the sights. Sniping just means you have a sniper equipped and are using it. It's just a better way to describe if someone is staring you down with a sniper. Oh and who cares anyway?

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      • Got hate messages for quickscoping on Bannerfall, got hate messages for hardscoping on First Light. Snipers can never win

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      • I don't mind hardscoping. However crouching in a tiny corner and NEVER unADS'ing? Yeah, nope.

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        • Yeah its annoying when people say hard scoping...

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          • There was a naked blonde on her balcony last night, I hard scoped her. It was good.

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          • Wait you mean I should stop trying to quick scope deer every time I go out hunting? Will it help?

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            • Buff all primaries! I shouldnt have to head shot you 3 times with my pulse rifle so you can turn around and luckly get a aim assisted drag scope to trade with me! This game is tailored to casuals and kids without thumbs

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              • Ahaha it's fcking hilarious when I hear "he's hard scoping

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              • *Getting ready to kill a high value target* Oh shit what a scrub I am, I mean actually aiming this thing...haha what have I become? I guess I'll just quickly bring up my gun and try to hit the target while disregarding the most important thing about being a sniper. Oh shit missed, good thing I've got three more rounds in the mag oops...oops...damn no luck! *Gets killed.* "OH MY GOD THAT HARDSCOPER! LEARN TO USE A SNIPER RIGHT YOU BASTARD!"

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                • Edited by Darches: 12/28/2015 1:13:54 AM

                  Started a new topic: Should snipers be more deliberate like shotguns?(6 Replies))

                • Edited by K4IS3R1999: 12/27/2015 10:08:09 PM
                  Motion tracker needs an overhaul. Always on motion tracker blows, big time. And inferno doesnt count. Dont get rid of the tracker, just reduce range, or limit it in some way. Shots, sprinting, double jumping should proc the radar. Hell, as an extra bonus, those silenced looking sidearms could keep you off the tracker.

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                  • Edited by Jackzaa: 12/27/2015 1:26:20 PM
                    As someone who uses a sniper pretty exclusively, I hate hard scopers. I hate maps that encourage that play, like pantheon. Hard scoping is not doing it "properly" as some people in this thread are saying. It's saying to everyone that you have no faith in your skill with a primary, or your grenades or anything in your arsenal, but your 1hk weapon. It's slowing the game and making it frustrating, because you don't feel capable of winning a level engagement. Move, use your guns, find interesting sight lines. It's far more rewarding and if you're unpredictable in your positioning by moving around the map, you're far less likely to end up a part of the worst thing in destiny... The 'head glitch sniper standoff'

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                    • When quick scoping got popular in MW2 I would hard scope on purpose because of kill cams I Use to love the Hatemail

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                    • Please continue hard scoping. I enjoy jump lifting from out of your sight line and landing behind you, allowing Invective to piss on the back of your helmet.

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                    • Edited by Darches: 12/27/2015 6:58:18 PM
                      And then it's like [b]POW [/b]"WHERE'D THAT SHOTGUNNER COME FROM???"

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                      • To be honest, that's what snipers role in real time scenario. So yeah your post is a shame

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                        • I have no problem with anyone doing anything in pvp so long as it is intended to be in the game. Wanna use tlw? Go for it. Wanna camp and hardscope? No problem (you'll be easier to flank anyway) Wanna blink-shotgun? Nice work. Wanna use pulse rifles? Have fun. Wanna spam hammers? Cool. ...Wanna bladedance? Goo... No, wait, you can f**k off with that sh*t. All jokes aside, so long as you don't boost or lag switch or ddos then I have no problem with how you play. (Though I'd prefer people to not teabag, use an emote instead) Merry Christmas.

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                          • As much as I have died from stupid sniping tactics, I've done the same to others. It's not like it's blink where only some people have the crutch. We all can snipe.

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                            • Is there a soft scope?

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                              • I havent been playing much recently but I got on last night and played a series of games. Snipers are everywhere now, and here is why. Shotguns are complete trash. Even at their intended range they still dont consistently get kills. Flanking snipers is laughable, they just switch to a primary and WALK backwards while shooting you to death. All the old favorites have consistency issues. Slide shotgun, shotgun melee, point blank shotgun, and even 2-3 rounds were failing to get kills. So there is no longer a risk to running a sniper. As far as hard scoping goes thats how snipers are used but it slows the pace of the games down. Two people see each other on the radar and stand there waiting for the other to come around the corner.......boring.

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                                • I love people who complain about snipers camping or hard scoping cause that's what they actually do in reality

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                                • Hard-Scoping - though infuriating - is perfectly fine. I often get ragey when I walk around a corner to find a guy standing dead till aiming down their sights and blowing there head off. Realistically though, its my fault for walking around the corner unprepared. That being said, any great sniper will be able to peek and blast the head off someone who is hard-scoping regardless. People like myself who rage at Hard-Scopers aren't necessarily raging because of the hard-scoper; more because we were stupid enough to get killed by them, because lets be honest, quickscoping does take a certain degree of skill (and a large amount of luck), compared to hard-scoping (though both obviously require skill).

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                                • I enjoy seeing everyone complain about both Aim Assist and "Hard Scoping" without knowing exactly how the mechanics work Aim Assist simply affects how long your crosshair "sticks" to the target, which, in fact is more punishing than not having any assist. It's like when texting and spellcheck tries to correct it for you and you end up having to correct the spellcheck trying to correct you. "Hard Scoping" as people call it I guess, is actual sniping and it is the person on the receiving end of the shot's fault for walking right where the sniper wanted you to. For the record, "Quick Scoping" is easier because of the small target acquisition when zooming in, if anyone wants to know what I mean by this, go find a dreg and zoom in NEAR it, your scope will realign with the closest dreg.

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                                  • I idea of "quick scoping" has pissed me off for some 10+ years now.... It's the biggest unreality there is EVEN in a game. If you put a sniper rifle in the game HAVE IT FUNCTION LIKE A SNIPER RIFLE. There is no run and gun head shots. No jump spin head shots. No run and gun, jump spin NO SCOPE HEAD SHOTS. I seriously don't know how any game allows it.

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