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9/16/2023 2:54:27 AM
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Its not worth it for two reasons:
1) Trials is going to be full of people exploiting the glitch
2) its likely that Bungie will roll back the game with how serious of a glitch this is, so even if you did earn an adept igneous, it would be taken away when its patched
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I got a adept legit so if the roll back i never play the game again
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Then thats the reality. While a rollback is an option that hurts people, from a developer perspective its the most efficient solution
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They already said they're not putting trials on hold. It's the wild West right now~
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[quote]Its not worth it for two reasons: 1) Trials is going to be full of people exploiting the glitch 2) its likely that Bungie will roll back the game with how serious of a glitch this is, so even if you did earn an adept igneous, it would be taken away when its patched[/quote] Bungie wont ever roll back 4 days of server changes Thats insane, what will likely happen is them searching the Destiny 2 servers for guns that have different perks from their perk pool and deleting them or resetting them to base lvl1 stats
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Edited by MrDrProf Oak: 9/16/2023 3:21:18 AMI doubt they'll do a rollback after this long, but you never know. They did take away the new trials emblem even after a few weeks so we'll see. Fortunately I already have a god roll old version adept igneous, but the new one definitely has better perks.
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Bungie will NOT perform a rollback.
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Perhaps not, but as it feels uncharacteristic of them to just let this happen while they try to find a fix. A rollback is a way to punish exploiters without banning/suspending. Unfortunately, it also punishes everyone else.
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[quote]Perhaps not, but as it feels uncharacteristic of them to just let this happen while they try to find a fix. A rollback is a way to punish exploiters without banning/suspending. Unfortunately, it also punishes everyone else.[/quote] They have never punished exploiters
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But a rollback is the closest thing to it. It removes all the glitched weapons in the game AND removes any progress made using said weapons. I would also like to point out that Bungie has a history of shutting down exploits that benefit players very quickly and they don’t tolerate them. Bungie’s “have fun while we fix this attitude” sounds uncharacteristic, and I doubt they’re just going to allow people to keep the Trials items they’ve used exploits to get.
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[quote]But a rollback is the closest thing to it. It removes all the glitched weapons in the game AND removes any progress made using said weapons. I would also like to point out that Bungie has a history of shutting down exploits that benefit players very quickly and they don’t tolerate them. Bungie’s “have fun while we fix this attitude” sounds uncharacteristic, and I doubt they’re just going to allow people to keep the Trials items they’ve used exploits to get.[/quote] It wont punish anyone, the players who exploited wont care that much. Even if it 49% of the community did that, then the rollback would hurt more people then it “punished” and selective rollbacks aren’t possible. The number will never reach 50% not that many D2 players know about exploiting, fourms or watch youtubers. And Bungie has only ever disabled things that could indirectly affect Eververse, easy xp farms mean easy eververse engrams and the most infamous the Forge changes back in the day which let you make cookies faster and tons at a time which then could be used to get bright dust and would affect the store
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I understand that a rollback would hurt more people then it would “punish” but tbf, they probably don’t care. The glitched weapons are crafted builds. To get rid of them, you would have to reset the weapon with the patch. If Bungie is able to reset the specific crafted weapons that are bugged, then great. But its likely that in order to reset the crafted weapons, they’d have to reset EVERYONE’S crafted weapons, glitched or not. Therefore, a rollback, while still harmful to the playerbase, does less harm than a whole crafted weapon reset.
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[quote]I understand that a rollback would hurt more people then it would “punish” but tbf, they probably don’t care. The glitched weapons are crafted builds. To get rid of them, you would have to reset the weapon with the patch. If Bungie is able to reset the specific crafted weapons that are bugged, then great. But its likely that in order to reset the crafted weapons, they’d have to reset EVERYONE’S crafted weapons, glitched or not. Therefore, a rollback, while still harmful to the playerbase, does less harm than a whole crafted weapon reset.[/quote] You really think a rollback is better than them searching the servers for “guns that have unnatural rolls on them”. Bungie did a very similar thing years ago when removing the ability to change the elements of weapons, they locked it too 1 element. They have ways of doing this in mass like editing weapons like that
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I’m glad you brought that up bc here’s how this situation is different from that one. It costs resources to craft weapons. If Bungie resets ALL crafted weapons, then all those resources people spent to craft them are gone forever. That would result in a massive outrage and is a terrible solution. If you rollback to the last reset, you reset those rolls to what they were prior to being turned into a glitched roll. This way no resources are lost and no glitched weapons exist anymore. In the situation with the switchable elements, they simply disabled the ability to switch elements and set a specific element for those 3 or 4 weapons (I don’t remember how many could do it I just know they were ikelos). They only recently changed the existing copies of those weapons to the element they were supposed to be updated to. I would also like to mention that Bungie cannot search up “weapons with perks they’re not supposed to have” and just fix those. Thats not how programming works.
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It really wouldn’t be
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Edited by BraddyBo: 9/16/2023 3:12:22 AMThere are players that made glitched weapons prior to today plus a rollback doesn’t fix the actual problem. Bungie get either disable trials/comp, disable all crafted weapons or institute a ban starting tmw at reset against players that use glitched weapons (no retroactive punishments). Then lift whatever restrictions are in place when the fix goes live.
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[quote]There are players that made glitched weapons prior to today plus a rollback doesn’t fix the actual problem. Bungie get either disable trials/comp, disable all crafted weapons or institute a ban starting tmw at reset against players that use glitched weapons. Then lift whatever restrictions are in place when the fix goes live.[/quote] They’ve stated they will not be disabling Trials or comp, nor does it appear they’re disabling anything until its fixed. Bungie is saying “have fun until we fix this” which to me smells like a rollback. A rollback won’t be used to fix the glitch, it will be used to undo all the exploitations its caused.
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So do a rollback just so players glitch their weapons again?
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A rollback puts the game at the last reset (Tuesday) where the game will go offline for a certain amount of time. This gives them the opportunity to implement a weekly patch (the fix for the glitch) AND resolve exploitations caused by it. All glitched weapons are removed and the glitch is patched. A rollback is the best play.
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-blam!- that, that’s stupid. I earned 4 patterns this week + god roll adept warden. Bungie has only ever done a rollback once and it was for 24 hours.
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Because of a gamebreaking glitch that caused unfair things to happen with people’s accounts. I’m not saying a rollback is guaranteed, but from a developer standpoint, its the best option for the problem. Sure its not fair, but they don’t care. The way they see it, you can earn that loot again.
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Edited by BraddyBo: 9/16/2023 3:49:38 AM[quote]Bungie get either disable trials/comp, disable all crafted weapons or institute a ban starting tmw at reset against players that use glitched weapons (no retroactive punishments). Then lift whatever restrictions are in place when the fix goes live.[/quote] Any of those solutions are far superior to a rollback. I’m not worried though because the the chance of a rollback happening is 0.1%. Edit: And I just noticed that you haven’t been playing at all since last friday so of course you are fine with a rollback.
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All of those solutions are great, but Bungie either can’t do them or has stated they won’t. They’ve stated they will not be disabling Trials or Comp. Disabling ALL crafted weapons is a serious shift that they wouldn’t be able to do by tomorrow and I doubt they’d be able to do at all. A ban against players using the exploit will not happen as it says in their ToS that an exploit does not constitute a ban. The only two options left are do nothing or do a rollback.
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Bungie will probably have a different tune tmw. A rollback makes no sense whichever way you look at it so that’s a impossibility.
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And see thats where I disagree. This is the kind of situation that warrants a rollback, albeit its a little drastic, but its the most effective solution.
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Edited by BraddyBo: 9/16/2023 4:08:25 AMIf it’s a 100% guarantee that NOBODY crafted a glitched weapon before reset today and bungie has a fix to go out alongside a 24 hour rollback then sure a rollback makes perfect sense. If not, then there is no way to justify a rollback.
