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4/18/2021 4:59:03 AM
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It's awful. Even freelance
This game isn't about gunplay anymore.
It's about who can get the best weapons in endgame and roll over people.
There's no fun to be had at all anymore.
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The game is utterly one-dimensional. And the lag. OMG the lag....
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I'm not really getting lag on psn. One dimensional yes.
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PS4 or 5. Because I’m getting it to degrees I’ve never seen before on ps5.
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Less players playing? That’s a possibility to why you are experiencing even worse lag levels than usual.
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Steady Hand and Felwinters Lie are easily obtained by all players, Astral, Messenger, and the trials Hand Cannon are not measurably better. Vigilance Wing, Crimson, and The Last Word still wreck, not to mention Dead Man’s Hand.
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[quote]Steady Hand and Felwinters Lie are easily obtained by all players, Astral, Messenger, and the trials Hand Cannon are not measurably better. Vigilance Wing, Crimson, and The Last Word still wreck, not to mention Dead Man’s Hand.[/quote] What does that matter? They don't compare to Trials weapons. The are absolutely better. Especially in trials players hands.
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[quote][quote]Steady Hand and Felwinters Lie are easily obtained by all players, Astral, Messenger, and the trials Hand Cannon are not measurably better. Vigilance Wing, Crimson, and The Last Word still wreck, not to mention Dead Man’s Hand.[/quote] What does that matter? They don't compare to Trials weapons. The are absolutely better. Especially in trials players hands.[/quote] LoL you do NOT have to use trials weapons to do well. I’ve used nothing but Palindrome for this entire banner. Even on the “larger” maps like Widows, Alter, Midtown, Fortress and Radiant Cliffs. All have long lanes where 120s dominate. You have to adapt to the weapons strengths. Not play into its weaknesses.
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Edited by X-LoganX: 4/18/2021 8:10:40 PMMy god dude. You are a diamond level player in most modes. You can't possibly relate to what I see in game. Lol. Another post by the disconnected high level player.
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Are you a high level player or an average player?
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https://destinytracker.com/destiny-2/db/insights In most playlists, only two out of the top 10 meta weapons are difficult, not impossible to obtain for non trials players. Why does my response matter? Because the statement, People “using endgame weapons to roll others over” is simply not reflected in reality. I’m not here to question why you say that, I came to say why it’s not that way. It’s not an endgame meta gun roll fest because almost, if not every viable PVP weapon is easily obtained by all players, which I think is a good thing. Hell, If you didn’t know this, you can obtain the igneous hammer from I believe the sixth or seventh week of the seasonal challenges. Also depending on the weekly trials bounty, you can play and complete matches and get the bounty done even if you lose. Good luck, hope a different perspective and some tips make your time better in the crucible.
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The numbers don't always reflect the reality of what people see in game. For me and my experience the Trials players with those weapons are [u]unbeatable[/u] against the average player. How is that fair.
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Usage Numbers yes, I’m kind of busy right now so I’m not able to provide links for the deep dive analysis on true prophecy or steady hand, but the fact of the matter is the damage numbers and time to kill do not lie. in some cases depending on the role true prophecy is actually better than both of them, these are obtainable by all players. I understand that you feel that it is not fair, and maybe if we’re having the argument that it’s not fair that they have guns that you don’t have, that’s a different argument. But based on hard numbers and math, true prophecy and steady hand are just as good. Vigilant swing is 100% better, in both statistics and gameplay than the messenger. Based on that I would say that it is completely fair.
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Edited by X-LoganX: 4/18/2021 7:50:24 PMAgree to disagree. My experience tells me that I can't compete again the Trials weapons even with a good rolled Steady hand that I perform well with against other average at slightly above players. Another reason why I hate cbmm. I shouldn't be playing against trials players.
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It’s also possible you aren’t as accurate with a 120 as they are. Just a potential thought.
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Edited by X-LoganX: 4/18/2021 7:58:52 PMI'd say I'm decently accurate. Enough to compete against my skill peers and the occasional above. That's all that matters to me. I shouldn't have to deal with Trials level players unless I choose to go into Trials. When trials level players are good with their trials level weapons, it’s not fair to the rest of us
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Look I’m not going to argue with you on it. I’m just speaking from personal experience on the matter. It’s not about the weapon always. Sometimes it’s legitimately the player. Being even slightly annoyed can really screw up your shot. LoL you can attest for that in my case, as you’ve played with me in both cases. Ehh I don’t have a dog in this. Just saying what could be going on on top of the skill based stuff.
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I get it and I appreciate the feedback and I'm not going to say I don't have off matches or even moments. However for me, in my own personal experience, the overwhelming feeling is regardless the Trials weapons trump most others. They by far have the most forgiving perks for a highly skilled player. I neve said they don't deserve them. I just have no desire to play against them unless I choose to do so.
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Lol sort of like how I won’t play against stasis, hence my lack of playtime as of late. Just unfun.
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Right! Stasis is the biggest mistake ever made to the Crucible. It is rage inducing.
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I don't disagree on that but I'll push through it to complete stuff.
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Or theirs has a proc’ed damage bonus and his doesn’t. This is simply a poorly tuned game. I just got killed at Wirmhaven by a shotgun rusher who came from that bridge and was able to close the gap to the door on the right before o could kill him with a primary. That’s stupid.
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It’s also possible you missed a shot. 120s aren’t too forgiving if you miss a shot. Ehh I’m not much of a HC guy, so I dunno. Just giving a possibility to what occurred w the shotgun on worm haven.
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Edited by kellygreen45: 4/18/2021 8:16:37 PMI didn’t. The point is that the fact that it’s even possible shows how poorly tuned the game is. No other shooter lets you do something like that. And don’t get me started on the ice-skating Titans.
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I can’t say you did or didn’t. I’m just giving you the most likely scenario as to why you did not take the guy out in an ample timeframe before he closed the gap. All it takes is a miss on a HS, and your just done, esp with a 120. But as I said, without seeing gameplay from your POV, I cannot say what happened for sure. Lol on the Ice Capades Titans. Stasis really has ruined PvP for me. I just can’t be bothered to play PvP anymore because of it. Hence my low playtime.
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You’re missing the point. No other game allows you to do that [i]because the guns kill at the speed of play.[/i] One-twenties are unforgiving because none of Destiny’s primaries kill in a reasonable TTK.
