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4/14/2019 5:20:09 PM
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I want to do raids, but I feel streesed just thinking about it
Any tips for how to just do a raid? I really want to do it, but I know it's going to be REALLY hard. I mean, with all the complicated mechanics and stuff, I feel like I'll forget something at the worst possible moment and screw everything up. In your experience, are Destiny 2 randos normally jerks? Because I'm worried I'll get a team of fully grown men who'll just pick on the 14 year old.
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2 RepliesPlenty of good tips here already, but I’ll add: - think about the things you’ve done in your life that you nailed first time, and can nail constantly every time. Then the think about the things you’ve gotten better at over time after stuffing it up over and over. I’d be willing to bet the second list is bigger than the first. My point is, don’t expect to ace it right away. Maybe you will, and awesome if you do. Mistakes are the best (and harshest) teacher in life. Gaming is no different. - i game with my boys. They were 8 and 10 when they did their first raids. They’ve done last wish and leviathan, and the 8 year old has done spire. If they can learn the mechanics and actually be able to run the encounters (and not just ad clearing either), you shouldn’t really have any problem. Took them a bit of practice, a bit of patients from the team we were playing with. (Problem now is, that’s all they want to do lol). - online gaming groups are a cross section of life. Some are jerks, some are fun, some are social etc. if my neighbour is a knob, the best I can do is ask them not to be a knob. If someone online is a knob, I can mute / block / report them and never have to deal with that crap again. Sure, it’s unpleasant and can even be upsetting, but you don’t have to put up with that crap. And as a personal suggestion, if you come across these knobs, flip them the bird and move on. The more you engage with them, the more opportunity they have to be knobs. Just piss them off and move on - some people don’t like playing with kids. Don’t take it personally. They’ve probably played with some really annoying kids and have decided it’s not worth the effort. Just appreciate their honesty and move on. Honestly, what the videos, have an idea what to expect. I’m seeing more “willing to teach” groups in the fire team finder, so don’t hold back. When you get into the chat, ask up front if anyone has an issue playing with teens. If they say yes, just say no probs and move onto the next group. If you’re in PS4, drop me an invite and I’ll run with you. I’m not awesome by any means, and have got some help along the way from some great people. I’m more than happy to pay it forward. I play with 8 and 10 year olds, so how bad can you be, right? 🤔 😆
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Raids are easy. Definetly intimidating, but thats because theres a lot to learn. You dont have to learn everything or be flawless, you just need to know your role. Just make sure to be an avid player and step up to challenges because quiet mics that do nothing make raids much worse. But yeah, expect tons of toxicity. Every fireteam in LFG is horrible and most raid report anyways. There are the aformentioned quiet mics, there are elitist pricks that will kick you if your not using specific loadouts, people who just cant or dont want to learn the raid and want carries, tons of hypocrites calling out on each others faults, etc, etc, etc. HOWEVER there are plenty of people who are awesome. The best games ive run are either in small clans where everyone knows each other or guided games [while looking through LFG or forums, wait on guided games as long as its not 1+ hours]. There are loads of awesome newcomers and teachers alike that only care about having fun. So dont let toxic people discourage you, just be warry of them. If you want to play blind or watch guides thats entirely up to you, just dont forget to let your team know your new or inexperienced so people can help you, or you all can figure it out together. Dont argue with people that have done it many times because theyve experienced good and bad teams. Not every video guide by RickKhakiz is good anymore. [I mention because I had to argue this with someone in Last Wish, me being a Rivensbane] The most frustrating part about raiding for me is having to figure out why we keep failing because one person doesnt speak up. You wont be kicked for being honest, youll be kicked for not communicating.
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Hey, I'm 14. And I played in a fireteam with dudes 10 years older than me, and we crushed EoW. You really just have to find a group of people you're comfortable playing with, and you're good to go. It also helps if everyone knows how to do it, or just the basics. Also, don't worry if it's your first time and you mess up. It's a game, you're supposed to have fun with it. And if you accidentally wipe your team out? Well, that's what Ghosts are for. Good luck. (I recommend tackling a leviathan raid first, don't try Scourge or Last Wish just yet)
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One step at a time. I still get nerves but that's because I only really did raids in D1. Just let people know you are trying to get the hang of it.
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You just need to do your first one. Every time you run a raid you shake off more of those nerves.
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Edited by Alvin Thwait: 4/15/2019 11:18:41 AMThe problem is some of the raids are totally unforgiving. If you get a decent team its much better and [i]they[/i] will be just as happy at you getting through it and loot as you are. I dont raid these days but when i used to "sherpa" people I loved it when they reacted to getting gear. It's a shame the community is the way it is. I've lost count how many people "have done this many times", but you see the emblem reward pop up after we finish. They were too afraid of getting kicked to admit they hadn't completed the raid, which I would never do inless they acted like a jerk (and I've seen a few of those!!) The only pieces of advice i can offer is: 1. Plan to spend time. A raid will take time. A raid with people being taught will take longer. 2. Know when to listen and know when to speak. If someone is explaining something and it doesn't make sense to you, thats fine. Ask for clarification. Dont shout over everyone. Wait for quiet and ask for a recap. Take gardens in Leviathon for eg. If i say you have L2 dog that prolly wont make much sense. I could show you L2 dog, but if you are on the opposite side of the room, getting there, you will prolly get lost. But, if i said "jump in the air and look for the large circle on the wall. Your dog is under it." You have a marker that you can look for. If you say you are ok and you're not? People will complain. Good luck whenever you decide to go for it.
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There a lot of toxic jerks in the community when it comes to raiding that want you to know everything perfect that's true. However there are also a lot of people like myself. Once we learn a raid we try to take our spare time occasionally to teach other people several people I've met through lfg's for other activities I've helped them through their first raids there are still good people in the community :)
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7 RepliesIt's only complicated if you make it complicated Since you are 14, DON'T get on people's nerves. Listen, ask questions, be respectful, watch videos ahead of time. (I recommend Datto.) Even if you don't understand the video, watch a petra's run so you can see how the encounters are supposed flow. Again, the mechanics are NOT hard, they just take some getting used to.
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I’ve had it when doing sotp. Guy starts of with how many completions you got? I wna see your emblem. I ain’t carrying no one KWTD, blah blah I said “mate your a -blam!-ing d!ćk good luck I’m out” and before I left the fireteam 2 people left before I did. Think he learned he was a douche
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These raids aren't hard. Spire of Stars is, but LW and Scourge... the relevant ones... are easy. Add me on xbone AllSeeingRoque
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Good luck finding a group that aren't assholes
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Lol lie and say you’ve done it 10 times. Say you forgot since you last played and never did the hard parts ! Lol I’m joking but its what you feel like doing... if someone has patience and over 10 runs (most of the fireteam) they can explain and drag you though no probs. Everyone has to learn and have it explained.
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Edited by I Am Sonic Rose: 4/16/2019 5:50:42 AMI was the same way before my first raid I was really nervous about it and stuff, I was 11 at the time so my voice was still a bit high pitched which got me instant kicked out of two groups but I just kept LFGing till finally got a really great group of guys and we blew through VoG in no time. Also back then before doing raids I used to watch Datto’s guide for it like 3 times to memorize things the best I can
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You ever played comp? There are tons of 14 year olds who play this game... Also raiding isn't hard, once people are a high enough level, more than half of the mechanics don't even matter anymore. I.e. Shuro Chi in last wish you can be adds for both dps, and puzzle room. Plus i've never really gotten any jerks, just depends on the teams you choose, put in your post (beginner) or look for people who have "Sherpa" in their posts or are saying they are teaching friends anyways.
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1 ReplyNothing in the raid is that complicated, in fact once you run it a few times it becomes second nature. The best advice I can give is to just do it. Don't let apprehension hold you back.
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Watch a guide, try to have the weapons that are helpful, Join a clan, there are literally hundreds of clans with good people out there willing to help. Just don't be a arrogant know it all, be honest and listen, and ask questions if you are unsure.
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I’ll do it with ya
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Best thing you can do is find a group that is laid back if you get a group and they start being jerks just leave it's not worth it look for others and maybe destiny help groups on social media Im part of sherpa group that teaches people the raids for free just to help out new raiders and we usually give the easier jobs to newbies but we explain what the more experienced players are doing so that you can understand what else is going on for the encounters
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raiding is the best part of this game, get on it! with a good team of 4 it shouldnt matter, they can help 2 new players through with ease on pretty much any raid. as mentioned before though, i wouldnt join a group of high pitch kids for a first run though! look for a group of chilled adults or just post saying its your first run and looking for help :)
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2 RepliesJust do it. I have been in raids where the fireteam leader had NO experience. He simply had the movitation to write an LFG post because he wanted to run the raid. One major tip: avoid raids with kids. You will be sorry if you join their group.
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My only advice, know what your doing beforehand through some guide videos. If it’s last wish, IGN had some great videos. If it’s scourge, Mtashed had some good ones too. Not sure about leviathan. Then just do it
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Real talk: people don’t like kids because sometimes you get ones that are loud and obnoxious. Everyone is that person at one point in their life, and I sure as hell wouldn’t have raided with 14 y/o me. But it doesn’t matter as much as you think. You can be 13 or 35, as long as you’re able to follow directions—or know the raid mechanics beforehand (plenty of comprehensive guides online)—a lot of people will be willing to raid with you. It’s even better if you’re actually above average at the game, because then people will actually have a reason to want to pick you up.
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14 RepliesEdited by W33DEDPLAGUE: 4/15/2019 3:59:40 AMNo buddy, most people are actually patient and cool. Raids are not as difficult as people make them sound and most of us have to go through encounters a few times before we complete them, even when we have groups who have done it 30 times. There are tons of guide videos on youtube, watch them a few times until you feel like you have it down. There are also a bunch of people who do nothing but teach raids, they aren't hard to find on lfg. You can make your own post and be honest. Say you haven't done it and are looking for someone to teach you. You should find some guys out there who are more than willing to help. Good luck and I hope you find the courage to attempt it, raids are some of the most fun experiences in Destiny, you owe it to yourself to try it. Edit: forgot to add that you should expect.it to.take anywhere from an hour to 4 or 5nhouts your first time to fully complete it. Make sure you have the time available, don't expect to get it done in 30 minutes.
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Edited by AeroWraith901: 4/15/2019 8:24:21 PMIf you get into a group that act like jerks, just leave em if they become too much for ya. The mechanics will be rough to understand at first for some encounters but if you get with people who are very willing to be an actual teammate and help you understand it, then it should be fine. I've had the same worries when I started turning to raids but after looking into some stuff before hand and just jumping in on some runs it will get better overtime "Just do it"
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People take this video gaming stuff way too seriously. So what if you mess up a bunch in your first raid? Its going to happen. If your fireteam gets mad at you for messing up, tell them to get a life. We're supposed to be having fun. This isn't work. You have to first surround yourself with chill people. Elitists will turn you off from raiding real fast. Raids may look intimidating at first. I was scared to raid too. It's all mental blocks though. Once you throw yourself into the deep end, you'll see how fun raids actually are and want to do more. The mechanics aren't that hard either. Things may seem complicated when explained, but once you put a mechanic to practice, you'll see how easy it really is. The only really mechanically heavy raid I'd say is Spire of Stars. Everything else is easy peasy. Even Last Wish. It seems like a long and intimidating raid, but its not as mechanically heavy as you think. All in all, raids are fun. Its really the people you raid with that can make it or break it for you. A positive attitude from the whole team is key.
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10 RepliesThat is one of the reasons that I don't. They also tend to be overly complicated and frustrating.
