[quote]But without the mentality, how will a game ever improve itself? It’s the people with those thoughts that keep a game alive, otherwise the game will die. Look at Destiny 2: launched in a horrible state. If it weren’t for the people holding onto the hope that the game would get better and all the problems would be fixed, it would’ve died before Forsaken.[/quote] But the problem isn't that it got fixed in Forsaken or that just enough people were around to keep it from sinking. Its that they [b]had[/b] to hope for the game to be fixed. How many missing features and QoL were there? Now before I get really off-track, it's not that games must ship with every, single, possible feature and be big-free. It'd be NICE! But not going to happen. The thing is more games are shipping very incomplete or in a beta or bugged state. Not all, but it is becoming too common.

[quote] But without the mentality, how will a game ever improve itself? It’s the people with those thoughts that keep a game alive, otherwise the game will die. [/quote] Games need to be finished, games need to be functional, the game itself needs to be good as well, and the game needs to be shipped with enough content to leave the consumer happy. That's how you get people to stay and play your game to support it. If none of those requirements are met they're just going to move on to the next big thing and forget about your game. A game like Halo 3 had hundreds of thousands of people playing on a daily basis for 3 years because not only was the game good and fun to play, it shipped with all of its gamemodes and features day 1 of release and you didn't have to buy any Map Packs to be happy with the game. The Map Packs were just an added bonus to an already great game. [quote] Look at Destiny 2: launched in a horrible state. If it weren’t for the people holding onto the hope that the game would get better and all the problems would be fixed, it would’ve died before Forsaken. [/quote] Yeah, look at Destiny 2. A sequel that launched with hardly any content that required the consumer to buy an Expansion Pass to get more content months later that should have been in the final release of the game in the first place. Majority of the playerbase was already gone by the time the DLC was released, myself included. I was one of the dumbasses that bought the expansion pass thinking that Bungie had learned from their mistakes from the first game but boy I was wrong. I essentially bought a $80 ticket in order to post on this website.

That’s not what it is referring to. It’s referring to the idea that at launch a low quality or mediocre quality game will get better eventually. Myself and many others are tired of this and are wanting games to be released finished and in good quality for the price we are paying, when that is how it was done in the past, and how other companies are still doing it now.

Hoping games get better as time goes by is not bad, but it's not good to keep being ok with mediocre products being sold as AAA levels of quality. The video game industry is one of the only ones, if not the only one, where people are ok with products being released and sold in broken states and even lied to in the promise of the game one day being worth the price. No one goes to a store, buys TV that was advertised of being awesome only to find out half the buttons don't work and it turns off at random or there are dead pixels or cracks in the screen. People see that as unacceptable, but video games? No biggie it will get better. This practice needs to stop. We're encouraging publishes to keep releasing games like Destiny 1, Destiny 2, The Division and now Anthem to be able to be unfinished products, being lied to and paying full price for what is essentially early access. I for one am done with just letting things like this slide by.