lets be honest with ourselves. every single time they made changes to the "sandbox", everybody hated the changes. most of the hate was because people didnt get what they wanted or got things they didnt ask for. they came here and made countless posts fueled by selfish emotions. after all that, they turned their game on. played it, got used to the changes, and stopped complaining. here we go again. let us not forget that these changes were not based solely off the feedback of the players. while i agree the change made to the truth isnt cool, saying "nobody complained about the truth. nobody wanted this change. why change it when nobody wanted it?" doesnt mean anything. they have their own data that they look at it and figure out its uses throughout all game types and made changes. let us not forget that when they make one change to one aspect of anything, it has a ripple affect. after committing to a change, they have to figure out those ripples and make other changes accordingly. you cant just say hey if you just change this one thing, all will be well. WRONG.

Yeah man i know, it sucks. I used to love running with my shotty in every gamemode. Whenever there was a fun inferno mode i dusted off my old universal remote and murdered anyone i could find untill i killed everybody. Literally. Now those days are over and it will never be the same. Losing special ammo on death, and even losing the Truth itself, this takes away a lot of the fun i said to myself.. So i tried a game of clash, used a shadow price (liked it), a fabian strategy (liked it), and a trusty old grasp that i liked as well. Heard all these different weapons being fired around me, people adjusting and searching for the new meta. People adapting. Took me 2 games to see that my grasp could still kill, i could still use shotguns as long as i didnt die, and i could use all those other guns as well! Just adapt, it aint so bad, is it?

I am having a blast again in crucible, love the new feel to it!

I feel like they turned Destiny into a big test for what they should and should not do in Destiny 2. At least that's what I hope they're doing, because if they continue this behavior D2 will be in serious trouble.

I said before, that that would be my last forum post here for Destiny. But after a crappy nights lack of sleep, I thought about it, and well, here it is. First great post. I remember seeing the original video by Bungie in I think 2013, where they talked about their next project due out in the near future. I personally recall GameInformer magazine ranking The Original Halo at 39 in their top 200 games of all time. That to me was a joke. 15 years ago Halo changed gaming forever. It should have been in the top 20, or top 10. But GameInformer loves Nintendo and no doubt is in their pocket. To me Halo gave the players the largest gaming experience upgrade, at that time, period. And other software companies struggled to catch up. Looking back at it now, I can not play Halo. The game itself is great. But the mechanics are too.... robotic too clunky. I waited and waited for Destiny. Release dates changed and changed. I had 3 copies pre-ordered. One for me and one for each of my boys. The wait was worth it. I thought The Division would replace Destiny for me. It didn't. I thought GTA V online would replace Destiny for me. I was sure Elder Scrolls online would Slay Destiny. It didn't. I owned every Tiger Woods golf and had no doubt that PGA 2016 would be the game that finally put the Destiny disc in the case for good. It sucked. So bad I sold it in under a week. I can go on and on, Battlefield Hardline, C.O.D. A.W. Black Ops 3, I.W. all failed to reach me. I remember when forums where the place you went to seek advise and get questions answered. Not anymore. I remember when someone ( I think Bungie ) claimed Destiny had 16 or 20 million players, and I wondered where the rest of the players were, and what they were playing. I have pre-ordered everything for Destiny, times 3 everytime. I have even purchased DLC for others that could not afford to do it. I did this because I could. A little Christianity never hurt anyone. I played this game from 1 am on it's original release date til 5 a.m. and woke up at 8 played it some more. I have met a lot of great people and had a lot of fun. I have seen people come and go. So just let me say two last things. If D2 is their priority now, then just get on with it. Enough with nerf ing this, buffing that. Dwarfing and ............. focus on the future. Every game has bugs and issues to be fixed. But at this point, they are only tweaking the game to make the P.v.P. players happy. THAT AIN'T NEVER GONNA HAPPEN. and now for my question. How does taking the time to reduce Truth ' s ammo for 3 rounds to 1 make this a better game. If you are not gonna offer a truly worthy patch, like say upgrading Crota or Atheon, then don't waste your time, or ours. I want to look forward to D2. But ....

I'll defend them because I like the changes they made. I also welcome change and adapt my play style when need be. I also don't take it as seriously as most of you forum kids. It's just a game

Taking away special ammo EVERY time you die is bullshit. The only way i can get any kills before i die is handcannon now. As soon as i get special i die. F u bungie.

You need to calm down kid. Idk how u were raised but the fact that u think what bunie did was [quote]unacceptable[/quote] is bizarre to me. Who the hell do you think u are. Gtfo bro. Smh

Here's to Destiny 2

I'm good with this game going the way Halo did with slower ttks. Seeing someone and having them explode is a very boring and repetitive system for PvP. The change to special ammo is fine by me rewarding smart plays with the tool instead of just endlessly doing the same dumb things and killing the same way every 10 seconds. To my knowledge this change didn't effect PvE where ammo count actually matters. Max armor is still max armor just going over that doesn't make that big of a difference in combat. Besides not everyone can break that armor number. The game now forces people to be smart and after seeing how dumb I can be playing a game it's a needed change. Granted I've encountered people who can't think but I digress. That bug is something that happens when coding I'm not the best at it or really I don't know much about coding at all. They'd rather push it out and notify us of the issue so it's not the same issues being complained about. Least they can own up to their problems.

I agree, though I like change. I just think getting rid of your special ammo just doesn't make much sense to me. People are use to spawning with special then die realizing you died because of it or now knowing you have to go get more can be a little aggravating, now all you see is sidearms because its much easier to run them now, and that's great for sidearms but it sucks for every other special in the game. And most snipers will most likely be using the no land and people will complain about that so it'll get nerfed, which sucks because it's great, tho it has no recoil. Sorry for any spelling errors. Again not complaining just stating my opinion

Bungie had a good game going now they put in a hotfix that takes away special ammo,so why have special weapons you can't use.Playing in the crucible i found some ammo for my shotgun but be for i could it i was killed,when i got back ready to play again my ammo was gone,if bungie is going to take away the ammo they should drop all special weapons,what good are they with out ammo.Who ever came up with an idea this dum should be replaced,no one asked for a change like this and it should never had been but in the game.You might ask the people who play the game what they want!

I would like to hear from bungie why these changes were needed

I played pvp today and well ...bungo ... are you drunk?

Yea this is actually the most fun i've had since year one. I am dominating because I am an old halo guy who likes to strafe and primary. Gun fights haven't felt this rewarding in over a year. I understand your frustration... but there are some people out there who are in love with the changes.

LOL at anyone saying to get over it and adapt.. adapt? really!? Go into a game of Elim. All you see are NLB and Ice Breakers. If you don't have them, well because they are exotics, you are automatically out matched and have slim to no chance at winning. I cant "adap" if the game doesn't randomly drop one for me.