It sucks to suck =/

What you have to do is embrace the meta and just not give a shit about how scrubly you must become. Even consider going to McDonalds and using their wifi hahaha

Still seeing red bars & actively seeing those same individuals playing with horrible internet connections,the wifi option should be removed from consoles. Hard wire is a must, no excuses.

I think it sucks that most primaries aren't as fast and efficient as the clever dragon. Can't wait for the buff.

Crucible ATM? Trying to get cash out in a war zone is not a good idea. Just use the one in the tower or reef, much safer...

I didn't realize there was an ATM anywhere in Destiny.

I stopped as soon as Titanfall 2 came out

Guys I've played destiny from day 1 regularly up until December last year, I have played so many hours of crucible, it's a fantastic game BUT... Bungie skimp on dedicated servers and use P2P connection which is just horrendous, I've played with umpteen settings on my router, ports etc and can never get a consistently stable connection regularly. Bungie have flip flopped back and forth with weapon balance so many times over the years its embarrassing I honestly believe their balance team are completely incompetent and should probably be fired. How can we be in year 3 and still be seeing these posts on weapon balance...how can we still not have balanced weapons in the crucible? Its outrageous. I highly highly recommend you drop this game and buy titanfall 2, my ping is always 50ms, I've dropped from a game once, yes, once in like 3 months. The game is fantastically balanced and its smooth as butter. It really is the pinnacle of the FPS genre, at least in multiplayer, seriously, just drop this game right now and play titanfall 2. All bungie are doing is dragging this clunky obsolete game out for as long as possible, releasing way overpriced dlc, and silly little "updates" that just push you toward buying silver, in between making stupid and unnecessary balance changes to the crucible that's so damn laggy anyway because they're too tight to pay for dedicated servers and we the players just accept it, so they'll just keep doing it. Destiny has well and truly had its day guys, try something else!

I still love crucible, honestly. I tried Battlefield 4 again, tried Battlefront, tried Battlefield 1...too chaotic and boring. Destiny crucible despite some flaws is still a more rewarding PvP experience then the alternatives that have no character progression and meaningless PvP that doesn't coexist with its single player, if the game even has a single player. Haven't tried Overwatch, don't have real interest in it. You can only select pre-created characters and what is the point of the game exactly there isn't a single player... Crucible effects PvE and PvE effects crucible. Its more meaningful. Also the gameplay in Destiny is so much better than the alternative games. Movement and gameplay are so solid in Destiny. Battlefield games are so stiff compared to Destiny. Destiny "feels" better. Futhermore all the other FPS games I have ever played since the 90's have suffered from similar complaints in Destiny. Certain overpowered weapons and classes, lag, abusers...this stuff is common place. The best FPS ever created before Halo and then Destiny was America's Army on the PC. And it even had a certain overpowered weapon players would fawn over. "Opfor" SAW. Enemy would get killed and drop it and everyone would rush to the body to pick up the weapon. In Battlefield there is ALWAYS a class that is overpowered. And a weapon type that is overpowered. Even Golden Eye on N64 had "op" weapons.

Yeah it blows. You destroy one match, melt from splash damage the next.

It only takes one red bar to ruin a match. On your team or the other. 👎🏾

It's very bland with the three weapons that are used. Year two was probably the most fun in PvP I've had because everything felt balanced and there was a good amount of variety in the weapons being used.

Not having a problem with it. Lag is going to happen. You would think that by now(2 plus years) people would have come to grips with that. And the guns? This meta is cozy and inviting compared to thorn/last word days of old. I do recall not to long ago when people were filling their diapers whining about sniper rifles. It seems that you tubers have begun adding phrases like "use a f***ing primary" to their normal rhetoric. Ironic though, this is while they are featuring their y1 or "god rolled" sniper rifle. This will never end. 1 week after the next weapon "adjustments" the new meta will emerge and viola! MORE BITCHING! Have a great day.

the quality in 6v6 for me dipped major when IB came and has remained pretty bad, the difference was like a 180, i dont kno what happened.