Less range than all legendary hand cannons in its archetype (with rolled ranged perks)
Less stability than all legendary hand cannons in it's archetype (May be wrong but if theres anything with less stability, it isn't far behind Hawkmoon)
Luck in the chamber rounds deal less damage to enemy players than Luck in the chamber rounds on legendary hand cannons. ( It can't even reliably two-shot headshot guardians with a luck in the chamber bullet. Legendary hand cannons can. Why would I then use Hawkmoon ?)
Higher magazine count ( a both a blessing and a curse. Less of a chance to actually proc lucky rounds)
My point is that Bungie doesn't seem to understand the term "exotic'' in terms of weapons. An exotic weapon, while it shouldn't ever be a clear cut winner and ridiculously strong, should NEVER be outshined 100% by legendary weapon of it's same archetype. It gives the said exotic weapon minimal reasons to be used. Hawkmoon is a perfect example. This is my personal favorite gun, and I still regardless of nerfs, have tremendous success with it, but it definitely needs a buff, whether it's range, stability/aim assist, or the ability to actually kill all guardians in 2 shots with an proc'd lucked bullet.
While I'm here I might as well mention the fact that ghost bullets need to be removed. players are punished for using a weapon type. Randomly generated numbers or probability should never be a factor when it comes to decided who wins a firefight.
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I couldn't agree with you more, but if they just gave it stability in the least, I would be happy. Hawkmoon was my first Exotic and my baby, and I hate seeing it in my vault because I refuse to dismantle it.
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The Last Word needs a buff
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2 RepliesIsn't using luck in the chamber RNG? So it's okay if RNG helps you but not if it has the very slightest chance of hurting? I don't mean to sound rude but bloom is honestly a bit exaggerated overall, especially since before bloom was even a thing most people used range perks on hand cannons anyway
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Ghost bullets are like luck in the chamber in the enemies' favor. But it can be with more than 1 bullet in a mag. But sometimes it only takes one to turn a gunfight around. I love hand cannons but there isn't or will ever be any good comfort level with them unless bloom is fixed or removed. I don't think hand cannons need to be fired slower for bullets to register especially if they are close to mid range weapons. The closer you are to an opponent the quicker you need to be. Pacing shots is risky. Tlw is the only hand cannon that has a full auto perk(fan fire). So the rest of the hand cannons got hurt because of it. But tlw even misses when fired full auto and within range. It shouldn't be like this. Hawkmoon should have better accuracy and bloom should be either reduced or removed. It doesn't need to have its year 1 range back though.
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1 ReplyIt needs a lower mag size. The "Luck in the chamber" seems to add more to the clip then any HC needs. Won't even bother talking about everything else it needs. Hawkmoon has been addressed by Cozmo to be "looked at". It's younger sibling Eyasluna outshines it by far tho. Happy hunting,Guardian.
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Edited by Sir Amik Vaze: 12/28/2016 9:33:36 AMHawkmoon? *draws on cigarette, I've not heard that name in a long time.
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9 Replies[i]' yeah, that Hawkmoon. I've seen that thing flying around from time to time. Not so much lately though, Used to be a fine weapon. Lately it seems a bit rusty. Talons seem worn. Someone should fix that. ' [/i] I miss this thing too. It should have better base stats. It's range, stability, and reload are laughable.
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Every exotic needs a buff
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3 RepliesEdited by U12070628: 12/28/2016 9:38:13 AMAs an Xbox player, I'm glad this gun sucks. I seen prepatch footage of it and I'm glad I didn't have to put up with that bs in y1.
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hawkmoon does just sit in my inventory/vault..... so i guess it could use a buff. and yes..... please get rid of ghost bullets. its dick system that seems to love to -blam!- me over at the worst of times.
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This is a universal issue for exotics Legendary weapons win every category except Machine guns (Thunderlord and Nemesis Star) Rockets (Any exotic rocket really) Scout Rifles (Only thanks to MIDA) Swords (no surprise here) And arguably Auto Rifles (Monte Carlo, Hardlight and Khvostov) Auto rifles is a moot point since they struggle
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Isn't it ironic that Eyesluna beats Hawkmoon despite Hawkmoon being the upgrade?
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Liked and subscribed
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1 ReplyAll exotic hand cannons suk ass and need a buff
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1 ReplyThis gun sucks so bad... I don't have the best kd but I know a Shitty gun, and this is a really shitty gun.
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My all time favorite destiny exotic. Gun was the shit before hand cannon bloom. I've tried time and time again to pull it out(that's what she said) and use it in crucible but the bloom is so bad on it. Not to mention those "ghost bullets" that don't register could of been the LITC round. It needs a range buff to be up to par with Palindrome. On a side note that moonglow ornament for it is absolutely awesome. It's still a fun gun in PVE but in PVP it's useless now