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Edited by Calculus-Entropy: 11/19/2016 8:27:21 PM
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Another Thursday, another load of BS...

Do they honestly believe that nobody actually checks the location of the people they connect with? My connections map: https://i.imgur.com/XnhVxER.png After reading the wonderful info in the TWAB, I was excited to see where my "best connections" really are on the map. The first person added to my match? 3,762mi away from me in Belgium. It took the game approx 2 seconds to determine this was a great connection for me. I could understand if the game just happened to ping this guy and check his connection to me. No, he hung in there through the 2/12, 5/12, 8/12,... all the way to the end of matchmaking/start of the match. Also note, they decided to add Brazil to the match (4,499mi away from me). I live in NY, USA and the highest quality connections with me include players 3,762mi and 4,499mi away from me on different continents? CB/SBMM debates aside,... seriously??? Bungie 11/17/16: "Connection quality is always the highest priority factor in Destiny matchmaking" 👍👍 [spoiler]Edit: This wasn't a post crying about having a bad match. I finished the match fine with the aid of some "lag strategies". I posted it to show that everything isn't working the way they tell us, and also to inform them with a visual aid (as if they weren't already aware) that their system isn't working as intended. In this match I was able to adjust and keep my distance from the few "laggy" players. My bigger concern is, what about the outliers in this match? The Belgian and Brazilian players? Could they "adjust" to 10-11 laggy players? They could have easily been any one of us in a random match. The reality is that I was most likely one of the Belgian players better connections. What was this match like for him, or the Brazilian player? Im sure there's a much bigger picture to all of this than we can comprehend. Add in a pre-made fireteam spanning the globe and finding a great, crisp, and local match for each of them becomes nearly impossible. I just hate to read something stating "connection quality... highest priority" and then jump into a game as a solo player and find my first "quality connection" match within 2 seconds, is a solo player nearly 4K miles from me on another continent with a ping that was at best 200+ms during the match (at times reaching 400-600). Many of us really do love this game and would just prefer honesty to what we've been reading lately. I know many people would love to read an update stating "Hey guys, here's the reality... Due to design, logistics, and the code this game was built upon, were at a loss in making noticeable improvements to your experience. Please stay with us as we roll out multiple updates over the next few weeks as we search for something better". Oh well, whatever... here's to hoping for a fix that works as well as a BS free update.[/spoiler]
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  • Hahaha awesome. Maybe those were the only 12 on at the moment? Seriously. Just round up 12 players that are as close as possible and divide the teams up by skill after that. If that means a 4.0 player is getting stuck with five .7 players against an entire team of 1.25s, who cares. Let the elite cry about CBMM instead then, or play rumble.

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  • You can't even trust Green bars anymore. I don't know what to trust anymore..

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    • They've lied since before this game was launched. Looks to me like lying is the only thing they know how to do.

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    • its annoying...i just leave the game when i see one/two red bar gods...

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    • Remove SBMM. Make Destiny Great Again! Matchmaking has only one task: make sure to get all slots filled with <150 ms in every game mode and kick players >200ms ~ in 60seconds.

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      • I see no reason as to why SBMM is so heavily in regular PUBS but it is not implemented in Trials. This is ass backwards. They are just trying to protect the scrub from getting PUB STOMPED. Life Lesson: when you start something new, you have to be bad at it in order to improve. You have to take a few losses and disappointment in order to become successful. My main game is Battlefield. When I first started up Bad Company 2, I got my ass kicked tons of times. I improved, and I am constantly trying to improve my game. COD is so popular because they try to eliminate this game mechanic. It's called "Skill Gap compression" Make the game as accessible as possibly so lower skilled players feel they are good. Heaven forbid these low players get whopped too badly. "We will save you scrub lords!" -Bungie

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        • I also use a duma, and have made many of the same observations. I've seen "green bars" with pings as high as 800ms. I've been matched against entire teams 13000 kilometers away in ToO that is "CBMM" (trials is a tiered matchmaking, matching you against teams with a similar number if wins. That is SBMM). Deej's explanation of how Destiny's matchmaking works, although simplified, is mostly correct. What is wrong is saying that connection is the main consideration. Just because you look for good connections first, does not mean that's what you end up with. I also don't believe they are not trying to manipulate your win/loss outcome to a 50/50 average. If you are matching me with similar skilled players, you will be affecting my chance at winning the match. They go together. You can't manipulate the player pool by skill level without affecting win/loss. The frustrating part of TWaB is it's clear Bungie has no intent to cater to what their customers want, and will be dammed before they give up on their SBMM social experiment. Any other developer would be embarrassed by the resulting latency issues, but not bungie. Basically, we're stuck with it.

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          • Remove SBMM

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          • These lies spewed by bungie are hillary level lies

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            • In before ban because this post contains honest logic:

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            • Bump cuz connection is their first priority. Apparently not too many Americans bought this game.

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              • [spoiler]you might want to cover your IP address[/spoiler]

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                • I know how to fix all the problems STOP PLAYING DESTINY Bungie will see they are losing players and most likley try to improve [spoiler]most likley[/spoiler]

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                  • Edited by SergioVengeance: 11/19/2016 2:42:50 AM
                    Just stop playing people. I know you have other games to play. If you complain about Matchmaking and yet, Bungie always sees and knows you will just keep logging in and playing matches, they have no incentive to fix this. Throwing salt on here and still logging in DOES NOTHING. Speak with how you spend your free time gaming. Protest Bungie by not playing their game.

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                    • Edited by Annihilator_HD: 11/20/2016 8:23:50 AM
                      Like 4 months back I played a lot of Rift and my elo was getting pretty high I also watched nkuch's videos regularly where he played Rift as well and he's from Canada I'm from Northern Europe and I freaking matched against him... His youtube gameplay in that time was pretty laggy overall and I also matched against the same people nkuch was against many times Overall the lag made the playlist unplayable and I didn't want to play pubs anymore... Thanks bungoo and your stupid sweaty ass sbmm

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                      • Forums are aids

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                        • It still amazes me to see so many Brazilian players on MMOs, not saying it's impossible, my point is that it's so many yet tournaments are mostly dominated by Korean players. I wonder if because of economic, political or just that is how the system is that you mostly see Korean players in tournaments, yet I've seen Brazilian players with almost equal or more skill.

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                        • Not sure who to believe anymore: Bungie or Bungie? https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/5dsdf3/not_sure_who_to_believe_anymore_bungie_or_bungie/

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                          • Looks like bungie have found the community's nerve and hit it. I can't believe bungie let that extremely bad statement go live. That was NOT good or sensible PR bungie and I suspect you are going to pay a heavy price for it. I play pvp, not as much as I used to but enough, I'm a average player. I play with friends or on my own and the biggest problem for me/us is lag. 99.9% of games has at least 1 person lagging but most of the time it's more than that and they spoil the game. If removing SBMM means that it will reduce that then so be it. I don't mind getting beat fare and square by a better team or person, But i do mind getting beat because of a connection advantage/disadvantage i.e can't do damage. Would you call a boxing match fare and even if 1 boxer had to wear comedy giant sponge hands? (would be funny though) no! If removing SBMM will stop these kind of issues then get rid. The part about trials being connection and card win based. Really? We have been on trials and more often than not we get teams with 1 or 2 players who are yellow or red bar. So are you telling me/us that out of the thousands of people who play trials every week, be it good or bad, you can't find 3 who have suitable connections to our team? Really? I think you need to have a look at your system because something is broken. Also bungie try talking to your players instead of patronising them. Tell them what you are doing or going to do that would help. But suspect you are not going to or try to do anything.

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