with somewhat same equipment this can be seen as an equal fight but there is one feature that isint that well known from the eliksni that can make or break any sangeheili, life spam. i dont know by heart how long can a sengheheili can live but all eliksni are age-immortal given the amount of eather they have. also the different ranking system makes that any capitain can be stronger than thier leaders cause most houses work of charisma, survival and luck, strength is in there but mostly only for the house of wolf. meanwhile an elite will rank up with thier skills so if they are not part of the honor guard they do have a talent limit. if we take off all the gadgets and weapons off both (except those that are needed to live or are fused) Oviously eliksni have 4 arms with 2 of them being mechanised Eliksni have more mobility and agility Sengeheili have more strenght But Eliksni also have a more resilient hide Soo far this looks like a win for the eliksni but dont forget elites have alot more training which balances out. so now we at the fact that this fight can go eather way but meanwhile both covenent and arbiter sengehelios have almost identical skills everything is different of the eliksni houses. suming it up real fast this is my thoughts though Eliksni Definitive win: house of jugment, SIVA, kings Eliksni close win: house of wolf, devlis tied match: house of scar(if any) Sengeheili close win: house of exile, winter Sengeheili definitive win: house of dusk Wolfes concentrating of surviving through taking have alot of training and fighting potential to balance the elites' skills Devils are fanatics who honor their religion as much as the elites but they are willing to bite heads of while guts spewing Dusk are the final of the eliksni and barly manage to survive let alone fighint a power house like the sengeheili Scar can go both ways since they currently have no information except still present Exile can bearly win small skirmishes with the hive which are the weakest in small fights in the destiny lore Winter are the greedyest of the eliksni and prefer to steathly scavange the to directly fight so in a deathmatch, il let you guess Now the eliksni power houses, jugment, kings and SIVA The weakest of the 3 is king which a capitain alone can rival highly expierienced guardians (not win but could at least hold hias ground) kings are seen as the strongest of the factions except jugment and SIVA because they are special cases. Jugment, the stongest house which was built to regulate all other houses if this wasnt a deathmatch they would probably get along really well with the sangeheili but sadly not this time. this house has the best of everything. The best gear, the best training, and the best eather supply. so take this in count with the life spam mentioned at start. And finaly the SIVA faction. even if the other ''Definitive'' groupe could still lose if not carefull SIVA is entierly different. SIVA Eliksni at thier start were secluded only to a remote part of russia and they were slowly taking more and more human land, now imagine thier strengh at full power. Not saying wait for them to evolve cause elites eveolve too but thier progress was halted but our guardian which was the best of the best of IMMORTAL FIGHTERS and even then they made it in the nick of time. Tick them up by around 1 week and they would of finished thier first stage. Considering the whole of the SIVA army I calculate that they could wipe out the entire covenant army pre-Arbiter. Doupt for this fight it will be the SIVA faction cause they are just in thier own league but all in all the true wining faction to count would be the chosen house and luck.

Energy sword can be deflected by a strong electric source. Two high powered arc swords would deflect this effectively but considering both swords are plasma based they are pretty much equal. Both have high shields, captains appears to be stronger. Especially them reavers. Scorch cannon projectile is faster and "sticky", while causing considerably more damage if held for a couple seconds longer. Plasma cannon (depending on game) has a fall off as it travels and travels rather slow in comparison. Both however can be spammed, and very dangerous close to medium range. Melee, elite are trained especially in hand to hand combat cause if it's honour. Captains from what is know are scavengers and not raised to be melee murdering machines. However those extra arms or a major advantage no matter who has more "skill" with two arms. Both are physically strong. Very strong. Been ko'd enough by them to know. Shrapnel launcher is ridiculously powerful at close and kinda okay at medium. Shock rifle is efficient at shield draining and seeking targets but that needler doesn't care about draining your shields when it super combines. Plasma rifle is good for draining shields but that's about it, over heats while that shrapnel just 2-5 shot you in a couple seconds. Evade vs teleport. Teleport is much more effective. It's teleport, with a slight but noticeable trail that only gives an approximate direction only. Evade, well just shoot in front of that huge rolling target since you can clearly see exactly where they will end up. I'd have to say it goes to the captain. -Superior tech except that needler, and that body build is a big advantage if at any point the elite gets in close range. Teleport is much more efficient at confusing and evading enemies and their attacks. Strength and shields are a draw but the captain has a better/faster way of getting through them. Swords are pretty well equal. Very powerful plasma blade vs the exact same thing (in theory) in a different shape.

An Elite can go toe-to-toe with your average Spartan, but could a Captain do the same? I'm having a hard time seeing that happen. Plus, The Fallen are just scavengers. They don't have the same tier gear as the Sangheili. I'm fairly certain an Elite's weapon, and armor, easily outclasses that of a Fallen Captain. Not only that, but Elites are much larger than Humans. Captains are not that much bigger than us. They might have more limbs, but that means naught against an Elite's sheer strength. They're not called Elites for nothing.

Do like Flood vs Hive! Or Brutes and Cabal

All a captain needs to do is melee the elite from behind for a beat down or assassination captains haveno such vulnerability

While you do make some very good points, Skyler, you are forgetting one key factor...This is #Gaming. Most users here, when they first saw Halo, were blinded by it's majesty. Paralyzed; Dumbstruck even. If they voted for Destiny they would be considered a heretic, a [i]bungler[/i]. The Noble Heirarchs, and the Council would demand their death. It would not be a good way to go.

Are you going to post one about Vex vs Prometheans? :)

Playstation players only have one choice lmao

Saying mostly stuff that has already been said before: Comparing the two physically: The elite is a bit taller if I am not mistaken and a bit more agile, so in hand to hand the elite would probably make the first hit. The captain is a bit shorter but a bit stockier and is certainly capable of taking a very good number of hits even without their shields. This could be useful in a prolonged fight at close range. One thing to note however, very few vandals and captains are actually seen using their lower pair of arms in combat, this could be due to the time they spent as a dreg where they used their top pair dominantly without ever switching back to being quadra-whatever-the-Latin-word-for-arm-is. So those extra set of arms could be useful in hand to hand if used. However, comparing the arms for the fallen and the elite should show that the elite's arm is thicker than the fallen's, so in an arm wrestling match between a fallen and an elite, if the fallen is only using one arm, my money would be on the elite. As far as strategy and weapons training go, I would have to give this to the elites. While the fallen and elites both learn to fight and survive from a very young age, the elites have a much more disciplined method of teaching. (Think samurai) comparatively, the fallen have more direct competition against each other compared to with each other like the elites. Making the fallen weaker as a whole when it comes to teamwork. As far as armaments go, both fallen and elites can be seen utilizing the full arsenal for each of their respective species. However scavenging the battlefield for whatever is available is not a tactic that would be unheard of when the objective is victory at any cost. Both species can utilize a cloaking technology of nearly identical effectiveness. Both species possess an evasive maneuver that can be utilized within a split second, and both have a range of about 10-15 feet. So here is how I see a fight playing out for a few scenarios. 1. Elite and fallen fighting at close range with their melee weapons. Since the energy sword has a higher damage output than the shock blade, I can imagine that the wounds it would inflict would be far worse. What's more, with the elite's stronger arms, I can't see a fallen captain winning a melee with just two shock blades. 4 on the other hand, wielded by a fallen that actually knows how to use them all at once, would likely be able to overpower the elite, assuming that the energy sword doesn't just cut through the shock blade and make for a short fight. 2. Close range shootout with a fallen using a shrapnel launcher vs an elite with a plasma rifle. While the shrapnel launcher is capable of hitting hard, it looses out in effectiveness at a distance beyond 30 feet or so, due to the slowness of its projectiles, it becomes easy to dodge at a distance. comparatively the elite's plasma rifle is still quite capable of accuracy at 45 feet or so, mostly due to its higher projectile velocity. With the fallen's superior reserves of health, their best tactic will be to charge in and wear the elite down before it can deliver a lethal dose of plasma in turn while dodging and staying out of range. Throw in cover to move around and hide behind, and you've got quite the firefight. Ultimately, this would probably have to be given to the fallen since the tactic I gave for the elite just wouldn't be part of their normal combat routine, elites are pretty gutsy, and are known for being bold more so than being tactical on the battlefield, while there are exceptions(who usually go on to become field commanders) most elites are quite hungry for glory in close combat. 3. Mid range shootout, shock rifle vs covenant carbine. When it comes to a distance fight, most of the fallen have a pretty bad habit of standing still compared to an elite, this is something that would probably cost them dearly against the covenant's precision rifle. 4. Long range shootout, wire rifle vs beam rifle. For reasons above, and due to superior firepower, I would think that the elites would have this one in the bag. 5. Heavy weapons , fuel rod vs scotch cannon. Very few elites and fallen use these weapons, but when they do, they are shown to be quite capable of hitting their marks. I see this one as a draw. They booth shoot at each other, and then both die in the explosions that follow. Now, comparing these, we have elites 3 fallen 1 with one draw, but I wouldn't rule it in favor of the elites just yet, let's look at the likelihood of each of the 5 scenarios occurring: 1. 35% favoring elite 85% of the time (15% chance of a badass fallen quadruple wielding shock blades that can parry an energy sword) 2. 55% favoring captain 75% of the time 3. 5% favoring elite 90% of the time. 4. 1% favoring elite 95% of the time 5. 4% favoring a draw. So, how does that weigh it out? With a score of 50.95 to 49.05 in favor of the elite, I would say that this is still a damn close fight with just barely over a 50% chance of victory for the elite.

Waaaaay too many halo fanboys here....

I don't think teleportation is that big an advantage honestly. As far as in game goes, it's short distance, leaves an obvious trail, and the Captain is always open afterwards as if they need to get their bearings.

Have you played Firefight Beta? The elites can kill you with about 4-5 shots from their plasma rifles and their Melee is one shot.

I mean if it came down to a melee fight the elite would definitely win. Those energy swords would carve up that captain.

More important than the weapons and abilities used is the mindset of the warrior. A Sangheili is born and raised on war. From a very young age, they are trained in the art of combat. They fight for honor, and so will refuse to do things they consider dishonorable. This sense of honor tends to make them tactically inflexible. Sangheili have been known to choose fighting with their bare hands when perfectly viable human weapons are available, viewing the weapons as unclean and unholy. And so, while the average Sangheili is more disciplined and experienced than the average Eliksni, their sense of honor and nobility is easily exploited. The Eliksni spend their lives fighting for their own survival. They will do anything possible to continue living, no matter how underhanded. They do have some degree of honor, but it doesn't seem to take precedent over their continued survival. While not as disciplined as the Sangheili, a Fallen Captain is every bit as capable in combat as a Covenant Elite. They surely would have no qualms with exploiting the Sangheili's sense of honor as thoroughly as possible. It's difficult for me to make a call here. I'm biased towards the Sangheili for this, but I don't want to let my personal preference dictate my choice for the victor. Ultimately, it comes down to a warrior versus a survivor. Tenacity versus discipline. Honor versus guile. Coke versus Pepsi.

You made one mistake, sir. You gave that Elite a Fuel Rod Cannon. Game Set Match...