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Edited by Vault of Glass:
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thorn/shotguns was 10x more fun than now. prove me wrong
camp camp camp
remember when time to kill on primaries wasn't an eternity long and could drop a sniper across the map in two seconds?
remember when a shotgun didn't need to get shoved up an enemy's taint to one hit kill?
remember when trials matches took 5 mins instead of 20 and you weren't res sniped every revive?
yeah...the last 7 months have sucked compared to the final year one pvp meta. ain't saying it was perfect. but it definitely wasn't the slow paced cluster -blam!- it is now.
edit: I never understood the argument about thorn, tlw, shotguns, etc. being op?? if everyone has access to the same shit, nothing is op lol. it comes down to you getting outgunned/outplayed. if they pop up and hit you with two head shots and run away, they still did something smarter then you to come out on top. denying that this meta wasn't the fastest paced meta the game has had is like saying the division was actually an interesting game.
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Yeah that meta was the best. Even if I used bad juju and my LDR
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They should just restore all Handcannons, Shotguns, Rocketlaunchers, LMGs, snipers and Vex to their former glory
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Edited by Whiz: 4/29/2016 12:18:44 PMB8 b8 b8. It's all you do and I keep falling for it. First off, you can't prove or disprove a personal opinion, dumbass. Secondly, I don't think you understand what OP means. OP means a weapon has a much faster TTK [i]in comparison to other weapons[/i]. Yes, we all have access to these weapons, but players shouldn't be punished for not using those weapons. You shouldn't have to use thorn if you want to do well. In a perfect game, every gun would have the same time to kill, and all that would matter is your skill level and competence with the type of weapon you are using. In the thorn+shotgun meta, thorn could kill things halfway across the map, so snipers/scout rifles seemed severely underpowered because Thorn could do anything, so why would anyone use anything else? People were forced to use Thorn because it was the best option and nothing could quite match it (except for TLW), and that isn't how the game is designed to be played. If you don't believe me, why would they put so much time and effort into making [i]hundreds[/i] of weapons so people only use three or four? That doesn't make sense. Anyways, I await your comment calling me stupid and not adding anything meaningful to the conversation. Edit: thought of other ideas and spelling
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How fun something is to you is an opinion, how am I supposed to prove an opinion wrong?
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I had plenty of fun with Mida/C-Theory with invisible bladedancer build on my ps3 lmao
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3 RepliesSuch a dumb argument "if everyone has access to it." It dropped from an RNG Bounty. And Hey guy, if there is only one gun you can use to prevent an ass kicking from a similar skilled player, its OP. Its not hard to draw a line. Only guns to compete was last word and possibly the messenger... At Range. Autos, other pulses, regular hand cannons and scouts all were decimated in 2 shots from the fast archetype Hand cannon with poison. You can still use shotguns and they're plenty powerful, but it depends on the map. Black shield had plenty of routes for a good shotgun flank.
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3 RepliesI would don't say that it was better, just that it was faster paced. It wasn't a good meta either considering only two primary weapon types could compete which were exotic hand cannons and low RoF pulses. As a avid scout and sniper user I had problems with challenging other players that were using the meta (which honestly should happen, but it starts to get out of hand when it's only three guns that were always viable- Thorn, TLW, and Messenger). Having at least three primary weapon types be viable is good, kinda like we have now which would be pulses, scouts, and autos (though in sweats it is different). Snipers are a problem, though it's only because they don't have real competition (much like thorn and shotgun did early in the meta). The problem stands in whether overall primary ttk should be lower, returning the faster pace of PvP, or make snipers less usable, which would either perpetuate the problem or make snipers totally unusable. There is also the problem with special weapon balance as well. There should be at least three viable choices with special weapon types. I personally think it should be shotgun, fusion and sniper (with fusion and sidearm going back and forth between viability). All I know is that I don't want my ttk's to reach CoDs and I don't want them to be as long as either Halo or GoW.
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what you're saying isn't right.... pulse meta was more fun back then you could at least use more than 1 kind of weapon without being too slow and never get kills because you can't handcannon. not that i didn't use thorn in that meta i did, that and blink shotgun mostly the latter though also i'm pro doing what the guns are good at which in thorn's case was 2 shot run, which i also did just because i could. i never complained about that either because if i CAN do it it's only fair someone else can as well. the only thing i want back is one of the following (not both that would be retarded): 1)a good blink (it's still usable but not nearly as good as warlock floof if you can work that shit properly with a shotty) 2) a bit more range on shottys (i'm not talking felwinter's snipe here just a bit more so i don't have to stick it in someone nose before firing only to find out i'm still getting damage drop off) [spoiler]i'm serious about everything i said here this is not bait and i meant every word of it, so that being said let the salts flow through your keyboard and make arguments against what i said please[/spoiler] *fluffs away*
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Essentially it's no different now it's just doctrine firebolts so you still burn to death. Of some faggy hunter throwing wombos and using doctrine. Lol the meta is doctrine, grenades, and camp
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11 RepliesEdited by Dabsta: 4/29/2016 4:15:21 AMI disliked the lack of useable weapons during that Meta. The argument "If everyone has it, it isn't op" is totally bullshit. If there is only one effective setup the developers did something wrong. Also, I like lower time to kill games, and i think most players wouod agree with me. Unlike CoD my headshots should matter, my effective distance should matter, team shooting should matter. This is the best the crucible has ever been. You prove me wrong. edit: Also, if you've ever complained about Firebolt grenade you cannot praise Thorn without being a hypocrite.
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Yes y shotgun if u gotta get on your knees like a fag then fist me to finish me off. It ducking tickles. April update footage "well there has been a lot of complaints about snipers" well no grits tupac u nerfed them from mercury to Uranus u dumb Pluto
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I want it all back. If we had the HoW meta with buffed Autos I think it will have been golden. Fast paced, constant rushing, not this boring camping fest since 7 months ago. I'm real tired of getting domed by a sniper when I'm shooting them on their face with the MIDA or any other weapon. What a joke.
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25 RepliesThorn and broken TLW were cancerous bullshit. Glad they're gone. The current state, while not perfect, is better than that.
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2 RepliesThat era was awful. Your screen was green 60% of total playtime. People 2-tapped you and just ran and you couldnt do shit.
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5 RepliesIn reference to your statement "If everyone has access to the same shit, nothing is op lol." If everyone has a gun it can still be OP, just look at Felwinters, everyone was grabbing that sniper and scoping people across the map, you could practically just pull the trigger and get kills! Same thing goes for thorn (although it was harder to obtain.) it was a 2 hit kill with DoT, it outmatched every other weapon (until pulse-meta showed up). And considering that not everyone wants to use a hand-cannon because we like a little variety in the crucible, those people would be at a severe disadvantage. So unless you were following the sweaty-meta trend, you would end up getting wrecked, you wanna know why, because it was obvious that some weapons preformed better than others even though they theoretically shouldn't... and that's why weapons like mythoclast were nerfed.
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Yeah Cancer is also really fun.
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Yep just made a post feeling the same way, I wish I could buy a original copy of destiny with no nerfs.....
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Yeah, it was. Running round melting people with a god roll Red Hand was fun. Then I got the POE Scout rifle.
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Kinda miss it, didn't have to deal with nearly 5-6 enemy's on the other team sitting back with snipers.
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6 RepliesYes, it's mostly the lack of a way to threaten a sniper without sniping that's the problem. Before I could blink close enough and pull off a quick shotgun blast to kill them. Now due to blink nerfs and shotgun handling nerfs you end up dead before you get the shot off. Can't use a primary, cause they'll just shoot you through the flinch.
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At least we could see our killers now they just whack each other off in the back of the map
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Year 2 thorn and vex and all the other great exotics that make this game the fast paced shooter it used to be
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Does party crasher still drop in ttk? There's some bullshit with the conspiracy theory. Pvp broken tough since ttk trying to find anything decent. When the -blam!- is Nirwens Mercy ever going to be available again? Like Xur selling Ghorn in week 2 of Destiny...
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Edited by Il Sweet lI: 4/29/2016 4:27:15 AMIt's not hard to set up a team to use shotguns and TLW or something of the sort. Good shotgun teams kick ass!
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15 RepliesI can prove you right. [b]Who can remember in Y1 getting the 1 minute warning with match time expiring?[/b] Unless you were on First Light or Skyshock, never. [b]Who can remember in Y2 getting the 1 minute warning with match time expiring?[/b] Every other match. This indicates that match times have significantly increased. [b]What causes average match times to increase?[/b] Camping and in general, conservative play. This also corresponds with a dramatic increase in sniper usage.
