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Edited by RegalKoala:
7/21/2014 8:16:40 PM
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How to Nerf Golden Gun
If you couldn't already tell, I hate the Golden Gun. In this post I will be comparing it to the other supers.
First of we have the the Fist of Havoc, this is probably the super that does the most damage (or at least should). It is a melee smash that you need to aim and be in close proximity to use, where as the golden gun does the same amount of damage but is ranged and lasts a long time compared to a brief moment that it takes to use Fist of Havoc. Obviously in a very close quarters scenario the Titan should come out on top but, because of golden gun one shoting them before they can use their super the Titan doesn't seem to win a scenario which it should undoubtedly win.
Secondly we have the Nova Bomb, being a warlock I have a bias opinion on this super, but honestly it has a relatively long cast time and is super situational. For example, if you were a good hunter and you activated your super you are almost guaranteed 3 kills, where as with the nova bomb, if used in an ideal scenario you could get 6 kills, but often this doesn't happen, we usually on end up with 1 or 2, again the golden gun comes out on top.
The Solution
Ok, after thinking long and hard, having experiencing all of these supers to the face and playing all the guardians, I have decided on what Bungie should do to Nerf Golden Gun. It's actually quite simple, raise the weapon clip size to 4, and instead of ever shot being a "one-shot-kill" make it be a two shot kill, but every head shot will be a one shot, this will allow the hunter to require more skill to play and successfully Nerf the golden gun, but still allowing it to be just as powerful in the hands of a skilled marksmen.
If you read to the end your already legend ;)
I would like to say that if this Nerf doesn't happen, which is likely it won't, I will STILL BE OK WITH IT. It doesn't affect me that much and the more I've played the better I have learned to deal with it, my post was just my opinion not a request.
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You haven't used it. You haven't used the Titan special. Try them each and then talk about balancing issues. Golden Gun isn't needing a 'nerf'. I also stand by my statement in another thread. Do what Valve does -- buff everything to be equal, no nerfing!
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9 RepliesSince EVERYONE loves to talk about the Golden Gun, I firmly believe there should be a golden gun mode, where everyone gets a golden gun from the very beginning and has unlimited ammo. Also, friendly fire is on.
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The biggest drawback with the Golden Gun is that is ISNT an AOE attack (unlike the fist of Havoc or Nova Bomb). If you can summon the Golden Gun, then you certainly have the right to fire those shots for one shot kills, especially since you can only have 3 unless you get special circumstances. They can't shoot out vehicles or heavily armored targets down in one hit, so they're already tuned enough in my opinion. This ranged attack make people play smarter. Not to mention, the player isn't invincible while their gun is out. Just don't get shot and you'll be fine.
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I've played warlock and hunter. Warlock is way OP in PvP. The grenade and the Super charge are aoes that demolish everything. To add on the warlocks health and shield fully recover as soon as they get their kill. I admit hunter was OP in the alpha but its been nerfd a lot for the beta.
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So....much......text.....not.....going.....to.....make......it.......(gasp and drags self across ground)
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I cannot tell you how many Hunter's i've pissed off by killing them before they could finish their golden gun animation. It needs no nerf. I've killed more hunters using Golden gun than they've even killed me using it.
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I play warlock, I see nothing wrong with Golden Gun. I've glided out of the way and killed them before they killed me.
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Your tears are delicious.
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You compare a "good hunter" getting 3 kills, vs a warlock only settling for 1. Apples and Oranges. While the golden gun is probably the ability that makes me yell profanities at my screen the most often, its a super. Its badass. Its supposed to be badass. I am sure last Crucible round when I jumped on a flag 4 people were trying to cap and hit my fists of havoc, they had some unkind words to say as well. Making it a 2 shot kill..what..puts it on par with guns already in the game? Why would you use your super at that point if you had a sniper or shotty?
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10 RepliesHunters are made to dish out high damage to SINGLE priority targets. If you know how to point a gun then this super is amazing. If it had an AoE then yes that's where I'd draw the line to being OP like how the other two classes have AoE supers. So IMO GG is fine.
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2 RepliesI just roll my eyes to complaining about balance at level 8. Lol. The game is balanced for level 20, so talking about balance now is rather stupid.
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I love fragging players with the golden gun. So, right now you die in one shot. So what. The Titan super can rip up people. Do you know the timing you need with it. You have to almost guess there will be enemies coming because you need to activate it in a semi safe place then find enemies. It's not overpowered. That's my opinion anyway.
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Hunters are made to dish out high damage to SINGLE priority targets. If you know how to point a gun then this super is amazing. If it had an AoE then yes that's where I'd draw the line to being OP like how the other two classes have AoE supers. So IMO GG is fine.
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Hunters are made to dish out high damage to SINGLE priority targets. If you know how to point a gun then this super is amazing. If it had an AoE then yes that's where I'd draw the line to being OP like how the other two classes have AoE supers. So IMO GG is fine.
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I only read the first four words and…... No
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Naw 3 is a magic number in destiny.
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2 RepliesYou say the hunter class should be harder to use? You clearly haven't played as a hunter yet. The other classes grenades do more damage, you supers have a chance of getting more than 3 kills. And the throwing knife is hard to use but fun. It Is in my opinion the most skill based class there is. The golden gun is barely a get out of jail free card. We have to activate it and then shoot. We have to JUMP IN THE AIR TO ACTIVATE A FIST BUMPING ANIMATING TO GET THE GUN your warlock or Titan just instantly attack. Also if we die during our super we lose it. Your classes don't. So quit complaining and learn how to solve your problem with skill. Like all the hunters had to do to be good in crucible.
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3 RepliesPeople who are really bad complain that the Golden gun is balanced, if you are able to have average marksmanship that thing is op as -blam!-. What about in late game where people can fire it from even further away?
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2 RepliesGolden gun needs a buff
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You've only played as Warlock....lmao
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2 RepliesI find golden gun has highest skill cap but also highest potential for kills especially if you take the talent that allows it to pierce, so it's balanced. Trust me shooting the golden gun is actually pretty difficult
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3 RepliesThey can get a maximum of 3 kills. Other supers can take down as many that are around. Hunter golden gun can't just take a point in one button either. It's balanced stop crying. Hunters are a class that's supposed to be able to be a viable range character they need a range super more than Titan and warlock.
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Okayyyyy no. You can get three kills if youre good with the golden gun, whereas the other two abilities could take out five guys capping a base, plus the golden gun is up in pve
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1 ReplyHow about no, its fine. All the supers are fine. They play their role. The golden gun is hard to kill 3 people with, it has to be activated at the right time and aimed properly. If you didn't notice you jump up and explode in fiery gold, you can't get away with that when you have 3 targets in front of you, you have to be strategic. 3 kill golden guns are rare.
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18 RepliesI don't mind the golden gun being the way it is but remember this, the golden gun is 3 kills max, and takes precision. Havoc and nova can get a maximum of 6 kills and are almost always guaranteed at least 1 assuming they aren't firing it at nothing. Also, lets compare the higher upgrades for the first subclasses shall we? Hunter gets 1 more shot or 2 more seconds if they kill someone with a throwing knife which is pretty hard to do when you become a yellow shining target. It also get a chance to make killed enemies explode. The only damaging upgrade it gets. Its recharge rate goes down faster normally and gains a boost to accuracy. Ok then. Golden gun can penetrate enemies. I don't recall enemies hiding behind each other n PvE. [u]Titan.[/u] Initial havoc fist. ok. Leaves a field of AoE damage afterwards. hmmm.... Havok field can be aimed at enemies. Lock on? oh dear. Unleashes a wave of energy along the ground. Jesus christ. Kills with melee increase cooldown speed. and it stacks too. Sprinting doubles the range of havok fist. Great..... [u]Warlock.[/u] Initial nova bomb. like havok fist, but ranged. Creates an AoE effect. Just like a ranged havok fist so far. Nova bomb splits into 3 projectiles. Wait, what? It's already powerful and hard to dodge but now they get 3 separate ones? God help us. Nova bomb travels further and faster. It's already fast and now it's getting a boost? Killing an enemy with melee reduces cooldown of nova bomb. Also stacks. Increaser the range and AoE of the nova bomb. Oh dear, remember they still get 3 projectiles. Enemies killed by your abilities explode. why..... Nova bomb can track enemies. dear god why?!? Killing an enemy with nova bomb resets grenade cooldown. Seems like bungies favorite class eh? For anyone that thinks that the golden gun is OP, you are completely and utterly pants on head retarded. If anything, by the time everyone unlocks these skills, the hunter is going to be seriously outmatched. Try and argue with this. I dare you.
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3 RepliesThe number of times I have been killed while my golden gun is active or is starting to activate. A lot. The number of times I have been killed while using or activating my FoH or NB. Diddley Squat. I must kindly disagree with your argument sir.
