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Edited by RegalKoala:
7/21/2014 8:16:40 PM
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How to Nerf Golden Gun
If you couldn't already tell, I hate the Golden Gun. In this post I will be comparing it to the other supers.
First of we have the the Fist of Havoc, this is probably the super that does the most damage (or at least should). It is a melee smash that you need to aim and be in close proximity to use, where as the golden gun does the same amount of damage but is ranged and lasts a long time compared to a brief moment that it takes to use Fist of Havoc. Obviously in a very close quarters scenario the Titan should come out on top but, because of golden gun one shoting them before they can use their super the Titan doesn't seem to win a scenario which it should undoubtedly win.
Secondly we have the Nova Bomb, being a warlock I have a bias opinion on this super, but honestly it has a relatively long cast time and is super situational. For example, if you were a good hunter and you activated your super you are almost guaranteed 3 kills, where as with the nova bomb, if used in an ideal scenario you could get 6 kills, but often this doesn't happen, we usually on end up with 1 or 2, again the golden gun comes out on top.
The Solution
Ok, after thinking long and hard, having experiencing all of these supers to the face and playing all the guardians, I have decided on what Bungie should do to Nerf Golden Gun. It's actually quite simple, raise the weapon clip size to 4, and instead of ever shot being a "one-shot-kill" make it be a two shot kill, but every head shot will be a one shot, this will allow the hunter to require more skill to play and successfully Nerf the golden gun, but still allowing it to be just as powerful in the hands of a skilled marksmen.
If you read to the end your already legend ;)
I would like to say that if this Nerf doesn't happen, which is likely it won't, I will STILL BE OK WITH IT. It doesn't affect me that much and the more I've played the better I have learned to deal with it, my post was just my opinion not a request.
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Lol I was a Titan thru the beta and didn't have problems vs a golden gun. A lot of times they would miss. The nice part about the smash was I could get you through walls.
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My view on how to balance golden gun - First target must be hit with a headshot or needs an additional round to kill UNLESS there is another enemy behind the first enemy, in this case it's a double kill anywhere the enemy(s) are shot. Keep the clip size at 3 - but every double kill with one bullet gives an additional bullet. Limit is maximum of 3 bullets extra before topping off (3 double kills in 1 golden gun is pretty damn hard on it's own). Triple kills and above will offer additional bullets with no cap. But the likelyhood of getting enough triple kills with one bullet in a single super session is unlikely, making it near impossible to have "unlimited golden gun". This in my opinion will nerf the golden gun just enough to balance it with all other classes while not requiring the other classes to be nerfed. Quick summary - The only nerf applied is in a 1v1 situation. One shot to the head or two to anywhere else. Absolutely no damage reducer for double/triple and above kills with a single bullet An additional bullet up to a maximum of 3 additional billets with every double kill with a single bullet An additional bullet with no bullet cap for a triple kill or above with a single bullet. This doesn't reduce the lethality of the golden gun, but requires luck, patience, and skill to get 4+ kills on a single super, just like the other classes. The hunter montages would probably be the best in the game with this setup. Requires insane skill but can go for 5+ kills, allowing it to compete with Warlock 6 kill montages.
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Warlock FOREVA!!!!
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Use a Warlock.
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Edited by Re L Mayer: 8/14/2014 7:18:40 PMim not going to use or unlock golden gun- i like the hunter but its stupid super move,do you pull a revolver out of your butthole?why is it golden? bladedancer maybe but if i cant back up where is it coming from(and it sure as hell dont look like magic) im not gonna use it
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I just don't see the need for this. If I am out there and you see me suddenly toss my arm in the air and turn glowing gold, you should be clever enough to MOVE. Unless you're positive you can grenade me or use your super on me, don't run into my face shooting at the hip. While a GG shot can occasionally be banked into a person, if you're constantly LoSing that hunter, the time runs out. I see a lot of hunter PvP videos where people seem to run AT the charged hunter and not behind some cover. Sometimes, you just don't need to man-mode that noise. If they made this nerf to hunter, you better believe this nerf would hit titans and warlocks too. And then they buff bit A slightly and nerf bit B and then buff B and nerf A and then it becomes an soup of retardation and blind nerfbat swinging.
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Two problems. A hunter is vulnerable during their super unlike a Titan and Golden Gun has a 3 second prep time so we can't use it on a whim unlike fist of Havok and nova bomb. Just pointing out the downsides
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I feel your argument certainly has some weight to it but I feel the hunter super is just fine. You generally can only get 3 kill with it when you take 3 guardians by complete surprise or you run into 3 guardians within 10 seconds that play like complete garbage.
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Should probably nerf your mom too she's pretty OP I mean have you seen the things she can do O.o
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3 RepliesWhat does nerf mean
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Why to nerf golden gun?
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Warlock player here. I think the the hunter super is fine as is. I even say make the time a little longer. I have played the hunter class. Its not an easy super to use.
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GG is working as intended.
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2 RepliesHonestly I'd be fine with them fixing the hit box when it comes to using the golden gun. You barely have to aim that thing just point in the general area and fire...
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ok fair argument... if you have never used it before, but the golden gun has NEVER been three free kills, first of all you only get the gun for about 10 seconds before it goes away, second of all it has some of the WORST of all of my guns, its slightly worse than a hand cannon when it comes to hitting people, anybody who has use a hand cannon in pvp knows how hard it it to hit people with it
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Spoken like a warlock... Perhaps you didn't stop to think about how hunters are already the only ones with a super that you actually have to aim to begin with.
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Edited by Meatonyourbuns: 8/14/2014 6:40:50 PMI don't think you fully appreciate how easy it is to choke when using the golden gun and how rare it is to land all three shots.
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Guns do more damage than fists....case closed
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So it's "ok" for the Titan and Warlock to have to use little to no skill when using there supers, and you want players to have to up there skill just to utilize a super that is already questionably lesser then the others...? Hell, by the time the beta was nearly over my sniper was doing 2000+ I could one shot fallen captains "with" full shields. Where as my renky dinky "Golden Gun" maxed out at about 300-400 damage. Even all three shots couldn't out class my sniper... AND I could also do this from the comfort of a safe place... Unlike the Golden Gun. :p
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Edited by CamTfirefox: 8/14/2014 6:24:52 PMIt's already nerfed, you have to aim it. I've killed many hunters on fire. Sure scared the crap out of me, but a timed single jump while shooting and landing headshots with the Cydonia or Shingen c can cripple golden gun users. Not the same against a fist of havoc. You can also quick headshot them with snipers.
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Make it less accurate. Problem solved.
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Edited by Exiled_Geordie: 8/14/2014 6:22:33 PMIt's okay, people will cry MOAR when every hunter is blinking and stabbing once they've unlocked that subclass. [spoiler]ps the golden gun is already balanced[/spoiler]
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2 hits is not very super my friend lol. Bad idea. But even though I am a hunter through and through, I can still agree with you. I say the best option is to take away all of (or most of) the aim assist. That would still be quite generous, but I could live with that.
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2 RepliesYou're on the right track, but I think you're being a bit too generous. To make the golden gun truly fair, it should take 18 shots to kill an opponent. That way, if all teammates are hunters, it will be possible to down an enemy. This slight nerf will force people to use teamwork in order to achieve victory. Also, the Warlock Nova Bomb should be buffed. When activated, a gigantic purple ball of energy falls from the sky. The team who used it should automatically achieve victory after a short time because it will work similarly to the nuke in CoD, the greatest game of all time. If you disagree with anything I said, u r a nub and need to l2p.
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*reads title* Don't get hit by it. Done
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3 RepliesWhy not nerf everything that should balance everything and everyone can use guns that shoot out small stuffed animals and take away all supers so that way everyone can be happy.
