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3/8/2013 11:12:24 PM
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South Dakota passes law to arm School Teachers
[quote]The US state of South Dakota has enacted a law allowing school districts to arm teachers and other school staff.
The law's backers say it will prevent mass school shootings like a December massacre in Connecticut that killed 26.
Amid a push by the White House to strengthen gun laws, the bill reflects a growing divide in the US over whether more or fewer guns keep people safe.
The measure does not force school districts to arm teachers and will not require teachers to carry guns.
But it allows each school district to choose if staff could be armed. It takes effect in July.[/quote]
Let the mass shootings continue on a much larger scale, nothing good can come from this.
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1 ReplyHow is this bad at all? It is not mandatory. Only good can come from this, good people armed with guns are the only way to prevent mass shootings.
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1 Reply" mass shootings continue on a much larger scale" Explain to me how arming teachers is going to cause more shootings Do you Brits really think anyone with a gun wants to do mass shootings?
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so now teachers have the ability to shoot their pupils without having to smuggle a gun into school. coolio.
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12 RepliesI had a few articles bookmarked from a while back I forgot to post. I'll summarise the most relevant findings. [url=http://www.schoolimprovement.com/voices-of-education/guns-and-school-safety-survey-results/?pr=guns]A survey of 10,661 teachers across all 50 states in the US was performed in January this year.[/url] Keep in mind this was right after the Sandy Hook massacre. - 87.8% say having an armed police officer would improve safety. The remaining 12.2% say it would make schools less safe. - [b]72.4% say they would be unwilling to bring a firearm to school if they were allowed to do so[/b] - [b]36.3% say they own a firearm, and of them, 37.1% say they would be likely to bring it to school if allowed[/b] [url=http://neatoday.org/2013/01/15/nea-poll-educators-support-stronger-laws-to-prevent-gun-violence/]Another survey of teachers by the National Education Association[/url], also from January this year. - 68% oppose (including 61% who strongly oppose) allowing teachers and school employees to receive firearms training and allow them to carry firearms in schools. [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/21/security-guards-in-school-scared-students-unclear-effect-on-crime/]On armed guards in schools...[/url] - ~1/3 already have armed guards. - Arming the rest would cost $2.5 billion. - Some research suggests armed guards make students feel less safe. - There is little research on whether armed guards would have an effect on shootings or violence. - On the research that has been done, there is little evidence on the effectiveness of surveillance cameras, metal detectors, or armed guards. [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/sales-of-kids-bullet-proof-backpacks-soar/2012/12/20/6cba668a-4a1e-11e2-820e-17eefac2f939_story_1.html]A clinical psychologist[/url] and administrator at the National Association of School Psychologists says that visible efforts to increase school safety with cameras and armed guards ultimately decreases students' feelings of security. While I seem to have misplaced a list of shootings where armed guards were present and unable to stop the perpetrator, you should be able to find examples of them. The ones you'll likely come across are about the armed guard at Columbine who was unable to stop the pair there, and the armed guard at Virginia Tech who similarly failed.
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South Dakota, really? That's like Ethiopia passing anti-obesity laws.
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Let's see if these schools get shot up, shall we?
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This is interesting. At least we can see how this can be applied in the real world.
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no one died at that school it was a stunt to ban guns.
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8 RepliesWhat happens if the teacher abused that power? E.g. -blam!-. Also, the teacher might even snap, never know what they'll do with a gun.
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15 RepliesNeat. An armed society is a polite society.
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2 RepliesI've read some of the articles about this today and my first impression was that, although I think this is a bad idea, the bill is actually well thought out. It's completely opt in. My second thought was that I had never heard of a school shooting in South Dakota in my lifetime. I've looked for reports of school shootings in South Dakota and have found none. So, why pass a bill like this when you know your state doesn't have a problem with gun shootings?
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1 ReplyThat's a terrible idea, get security staff, don't arm the teachers themselves. It has the potential to go very wrong.
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I wouldn't mind this. In fact I would feel safer if my teachers had a gun. Maybe the guns can be sealed in a magnetically closed container that only opens if the school is put on lock down.
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2 RepliesSo when is the law going to be passed which allows movie projectionists to carry a firearm in cinemas? Or checkout chicks in supermarkets? etc... Serious question, by the way.
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Eh nothing to be too afraid of. Believe it or not the majority handle guns responsibly.
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Nice. This will allow for some great one-liners from teachers if the situation ever arises where they would need to use their weapons.
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As someone who ha been in the presence of a teacher having a mental break down, I can't really say I would like to be student in South Dakota.
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Jaysus Christ...
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It's funny because back in the 60s and 70s, kids would bring their guns to school, store them in their lockers, and then go responsibly shoot them after class. It is the culture and the people who have changed. If I ever have kids, they will take hunter safety courses, and I would give them a lot of exposure to firearms. The most dangerous people with firearms are the people who don't understand them.
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3 RepliesWe don't have these problems up here in Canada.
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dafuq I made a thread about this earlier today. Y U GET MORE REPLIES
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The argument is that cops lack the manpower in schools to be a preventive force, but are rather a reactive organization that comes after the students have been killed. Notice that many school shootings have had cops, but none of them managed to stop the rampage. I generally disagree with arming teachers, unless they have undergone tactical training through their own money or have prior military experience (as in a combat job, like MP or Infantry).
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11 RepliesINSANITY. The only appropriate word for this. Put a cop in the school, I support that. Arming teachers is insanely idiotic.
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Good. Everyone is acting like these teachers are retarded and gonna show the gun off and accidently shoot some kid.
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Well atleast you've stopped using the Sun.
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9 RepliesLonepaul, just stay in the UK and let us worry about our own problems. It's been far to long that schools have been defense free zones.
