I love them both, I really do. But their take is literally why EOF pooped the bed:
Hurrr, we want more difficult raids!
Durr, we want the game to be moar harder!
Hurr, we want moar grind!
Done, done and done.
How did that turn out?
I wish you all luck on Renegades and your future endeavors.
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1 ReplyDon't care about people that have no job and litterally get money donated to them because of it . Even a garbage man has a real job . Also they benefit from every single person supporting their channel but what does the person that supports get in return ? An emote that they can use in their chat ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Can someone explain why you donate money to streamers and make them famous for no reason ??
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Edited by xbroggiex: 12/4/2025 1:43:13 AMDatto will cry for more difficulty then proceed to get filtered just like he did in RoN then cry it was "too easy" while getting blasted by 100+ teams on placement. Aztecross will just say "make it more like runescape or give us *add useless MMO feature here*". Their feedback is basically schizophrenic at this point, one day its "WE NEED RNG NOW" and then another day its "crafting was a good system actually". They are borderline bipolar.
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The only feedback Bungie got was “waaaaahhhhhhhh” my stream numbers are down.
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Yea, bring in one whiner content creator and the other that I find drier than my girlfriends thanksgiving turkey. If you need them and others to give you feedback, then you're out of touch with the community. They don't speak for the community.
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7 RepliesBeen years runnin now my man, where you been?! LOL This IS the last curtain though regardless. They either figure this sh!t out now or they're gonna turn the entire studio into a relic. Yes, my 2 cents, but that IS reality if you see the abysmal numbers. Unsustainable is the only word.
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Cross dropping video in a week with title “ this is bad” that’s how it always goes
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This is true. The needs and desires of streamers pull in the opposite direction to what many players want and value. They want ‘secret puzzles’ which are by-design impossible for players to solve. They need to be so-called community solved and engaged with purely in YouTube not in Destiny. They want near impossible raids, that far fewer even ever play, and fewer still enjoy. All for their streaming revenues. They want everything to be end-range difficulty. Because they sit there all day, every day playing Destiny for money. Now it’s easy and now they’re bored and so what if everyone else would find it unplayable. They want Destiny 3. They think this will somehow solve all the problems, as if by space-magic. And if everything has arbitrarily changed they can make big money pumping out endless new guides. Who cares if everyone else doesn’t want to grind for Gjallahorn a third time. These are the things they’re interested in, that they try to push on us and Bungie for their financial gain.
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11 RepliesInvites a guy who quits the game and blames the community. Still unclear what problem he has with the community.
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3 RepliesDid they invite Saltywanker as well whilst they were at it?
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2 RepliesPretty fun. How ya been?
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👆 Too much truth in the OG’s post for the Bungie -blam!- to handle. 🤣🤣🤣
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2 RepliesYou should hear Mr. Fruit and Sweat's opinions on Renegade. It's like night and day after watching Cross and Datto's opinions.
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2 RepliesNo this genuinely needs to be discussed on a more serious level. Why is the only feedback that bungie cares the feedback from khakis, datto, Aztec and people like this?? How can they not have inherent biases when their job is to play destiny 2. Does bungie want to appeal to fans and gamers or content creators and streamers???
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The only streamer's opinion I'll accept on Renegades is Houndish's. Which was to refuse the invite when he was sent one.
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While lucky was left at home 😂 🍀
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2 RepliesThey also brought in Mr.fruit who at this point has become a casual, honestly of the three he gave the most "real" opinions for Renegades, meaning he had no qualms about stating his opinion with zero sugar coating.
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1 ReplyEdited by BRAZACK: 12/2/2025 11:47:21 AMnot one of them are telling bungie that the portal sucks -blam!-. bungie is still trying to fix the one thing that everybody hates in the game. bring back gm nightfalls and the old system of weekly featured raids , dungeons, nightfalls, missions and exotic missions. this was fun idk why they fixed it / it wasnt broken and was working. remove the selectable mod card nonsense. bring back fixed weekly rotating mods with elemental burns (arc , solar , void , stasis or strand)and weapon burns (special , heavy and kinetic). this was fun. they can keep the armor stat changes but let them be maxed out at 100 / rebalanced around that. bring back expert , master and gm difficulties/ this is all we needed rebalance around that. the portal should just be a tab that shows all of the featured content for the weekly reset . thats it, people can either use that or the destination tab . remove tier 5 nonsense and bring back adepts. adepts were special tier 5s are not. also tier 5 loot is why most content is obsolete because they were not updated to drop tier 5 loot. this is all the changes we need to bring back the magic but i dont see any streamers talking about it. there may be more that i forgot but imo these are the ones that bother me the most. im worried about d3 because they will screw it up, look at where we are with d2 they are clueless / listening to the wrong feedback. aztecros likes runescape so he will give feedback to make d3 like runescape lol. Edit : loot should be specific to events / playlists. Vanguard, crucible, trials,nightfalls dungeons and raids should all have their own specific loot pools. Currently with the portal you get the same loot from everything which sucks.
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Streamers are a plague in the gaming community.
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2 RepliesImagine giving streamers control over the game over the player community. That’s a wild decision. If you’re subscribed to any of these people, do the player community a favor and unsubscribe.
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1 Reply[quote]I love them both, I really do. But their take is literally why EOF pooped the bed: Hurrr, we want more difficult raids! Durr, we want the game to be moar harder! Hurr, we want moar grind! Done, done and done. How did that turn out? I wish you all luck on Renegades and your future endeavors.[/quote] I don’t love either one. Never heard Datto once and proud of that. Cross has lost touch with literally the entire player base. They were both very poor choices for real feedback.
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Edited by xbroggiex: 12/1/2025 11:18:53 PMAztecross' recent rambling has been "LETS GO BACK TO DESTINY 1!!!! WITH A D1 CLASSIC!!!" He's entertaining to watch sometimes but he is really out of touch. Datto on the other hand is a whiny b that will endlessly cope about being shackled to Destiny as his variety channel got basically no views compared to his Destiny content because he has the personality of wet cardboard. Datto was also supposed to "take a break until Renegades" after he had a little crashout over youtube chat but I guess that was a lie because he was right back when call to arms launched, and then in a complete twist of irony Datto made a video and was complaining about having to level up to get top 1% in the event.
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31 RepliesI heard Cross say the Invasion activity should have more than the 6 crests needed to complete. How about no and -blam!- you? My idea>Azteccross' idea Not everyone has a desire to do PvP.
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4 RepliesDid Datto whine some more about not getting enough views....
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Bro chill dude go see a doctor
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11 RepliesYou're kinda braindead aren't you
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I swear people don’t even understand what a capture event is at this point. Why tf would they fly out a bunch of CC less than a month before the DLC is slated to release other than to get gameplay footage to advertise and promote the new content? You really think Bungie possesses the skills to completely rewrite/rework an entire DLC in less than 30 days? Grow up.