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Edited by Chunk:
10/4/2023 2:15:37 PM
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Trials hot-take most won't allow themselves to comprehend
I see 2 choices bungie can go
#1 Any 7 win card no matter how many losses you have gives you an adept weapon at the cost of the card no farming for you.. no cosmetics no mats, natural gets it all and may farm.
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#2 Strict sbmm, super strict
My defense, for saying such a thing!
I am sure I will hear get good, skill issue or you'll only have a 50% win rate at best. Adept weapons aren't for everyone.
To that I say most bad players, average players have about a 30% win ratio so a 50% would be an improvement.
If you oppose super strict sbmm adept weapons aren't for you, because that's what you're avoiding, you want easy.. yes you should be punished for being good at the game, I'm punished because you're good at the game.
So the cost of the 1% having an enjoyable experience ruins it for 70% and you wonder why it dies every single season, after season, after season.
It's amazing trials must have a ghost that keeps reviving it because it's gone and come back so many times I've lost count
Down voting it just proves your fears
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7 RepliesSkill issue
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Everybody who plays pvp deserves everything bad that happens to them in it.
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8 RepliesYeah, because the PvP numbers are at an all-time high since SBMM was introduced. Nobody is playing PvP nowadays since they ruined it for the people who actually enjoyed it lmao.
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5 RepliesYou can’t have SBMM without including SB rewards. If want to use ELO as an example, plat and up getting wins should yield adept weapons. Anything below will just have normal drops. You have to reward the dedicated players with something. Adept weapons aren’t that special and should be their rewards.
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It amazes me there are humans out there who think like this and somehow manage to get enough food and water to survive.
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1 ReplyI'm never shocked at the gross incompetence I see in the forums anymore
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5 RepliesThe victim mentality in your post is unreal. Good players should be “punished” for being good because you are being punished because you don’t want to put in a modicum amount of effort to improve? Bungie already is giving out a ton of weapons now for match wins. Why are you so obsessed with an adept weapon when truly it’s a marginal stat bump but really it’s simply the “flex” akin to basically a cosmetic. Your 5/5 normal weapon didn’t lose to the 5/5 adept weapon because yours was normal. You lost to the guy with the adept cuz he’s simply better. I don’t hide my stats and I say this all as a very average player. I’d love the trials population to be booming but your two ways are simply terrible takes
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They should have an iron -blam!- 3v3 mode for something like this for iron -blam!- adept weapons. trials needs dedicated servers. Everything else is fine once the nerf wards and melee range. Be nice if all super had the same timer and kills counted huge to increase it. I don’t even get strand hunter super 90% of matches. Over 9:00 cooldown and I have tier 7. trials need to stay trials though.
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7 RepliesYou do realise 7 wins in a row on a 50% win rate is less than 1%.
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Edited by A_mo: 10/4/2023 10:46:03 PMTrials is going to continue to have the problem it has as long as people to take a mode like that and have the game force them into being treated like top tier players. It was originally a mode that was supposed to be for the best players. Its just weird to say "oh now its not that anymore and its going to work perfectly right still." The problem with SBMM in that mode is that its a mode that works best when the players are playing it and not the game. Not saying that the player population would be higher if its not sbmm just saying that it probably won't end up any higher if it is and its still a 7 win card based thing. There doesn't have to be a 50% win rate with sbmm but that's just all the more "unfair" its likely to get for some group of people with the 7 win thing. At a certain point its just taking people and sending them flawless and if the game is doing that there's likely to be a good portion of other people that aren't going to want to play the gameplay that results. Whatever happens with trials in the long run, it shouldn't be something where some group of people has to get tricked into playing it.
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15 RepliesWinning 7 50/50s in a row has a 0.78125% chance and 7 wins with the mercy card (having both losses) is a 10.98% chance. Giving adept weapons for just 7 wins kills the mode and would make the adepts useless. Why give every bad player something good knowing that it will just lead to the adepts meaning nothing and cosmetics would be the only thing that would give a flawless any meaning at that point. You say 70% suffer but trials was never meant for casuals, trials was originally marketed as a gamemode for skilled people to test that skill against other skilled people. Bungie has kept to that idea. You are simply ignorant of the purpose of the mode.
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Trials is fine as it is. Only thing they could do to make it better is take out dominion
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both options terrible, the best option bungie have is to remove the bad players pool , and that's all
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Not sure if you can comprehend this: You are not entitled to adept weapons. There is nothing preventing you from being able to improve and properly earn them.
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Delusional take tbh
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Edited by TripleJ: 10/4/2023 4:53:54 PMI don't know about your choices but the way trials works now is fundamentally unsustainable since all the loot drops require wins (7 win card farms, flawless, or those new random drops after a win) and rep gain is terrible even with 20 round cards. No wins no loot means the bottom of the bracket keeps falling out until even the top players see less and less wins, how long before we get to the numbers trials of the nine hit before being retired?
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6 RepliesIn a SBMM system that forces a 50% win loss, nobody goes flawless. You acknowledge that a 50% win loss is what SBMM brings to the table in your post. Tell me which it is, do you need help understanding how the statistics would work here; or are you a miserable human who is jealous of better players.
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1 ReplyBut the odds of winning 7 50/50’s in a row wouldn’t work. Do the maths.
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Edited by Shockwave 989: 10/4/2023 3:25:11 PMI sense someone couldn’t go Flawless last weekend and decided to make that the forums problem. Edit: You’re in the top 50% of players ELO wise with a 56% win rate, you’d be making your own chances worse.
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🍼 Nap time little buddy
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2 Replies[quote]I see 2 choices bungie can go #1 Any 7 win card no matter how many losses you have gives you an adept weapon at the cost of the card no farming for you.. no cosmetics no mats, natural gets it all and may farm. Or #2 Strict sbmm, super strict My defense, for saying such a thing! I am sure I will hear get good, skill issue or you'll only have a 50% win rate at best. Adept weapons aren't for everyone. To that I say most bad players, average players have about a 30% win ratio so a 50% would be an improvement. If you oppose super strict sbmm adept weapons aren't for you, because that's what you're avoiding, you want easy.. yes you should be punished for being good at the game, I'm punished because you're good at the game. So the cost of the 1% having an enjoyable experience ruins it for 70% and you wonder why it dies every single season, after season, after season. It's amazing trials must have a ghost that keeps reviving it because it's gone and come back so many times I've lost count[/quote] You’re not entitled to adept weapons or to going flawless. The normal weapons are perfectly fine for you. Trials is a tournament style mode, it should be card based matchmaking. The population in trials has only dropped after the implementation of changes made catering towards those on the lower skill end of the spectrum.
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2 RepliesOne playlist aimed at the best players seems fair to me. The problem is that Comp (which caters to a wider range of skill) has very little loot and an unintuitive ranking system.
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[quote]Down voting it just proves your fears[/quote] Motivation
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6 Repliesummm solo queue?
