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Edited by Riven’s No.1 Cookie Baker:
11/25/2020 1:14:27 AM
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Once again, they over-nerf the new warlock subclass!
Melee has more than half less range and only freezes people for one second?
Super lasts shorter now and is weaker?
Iceflare bolts are now practically useless?
And none of these nerfs affect hunters or titans?!
It’s like nova warp all over again, but shadebinder wasn’t even nearly as strong as nova warp, and we didn’t even get more than 9 days to enjoy it!
STOP NERFING WARLOCKS!!!
WE’RE ALREADY THE WEAKEST PVP CLASS!!!!
AAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH
Edit: how on earth do people seriously think warlocks have the best stasis. Do any of you even play crucible?!?!
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Shadebinder was much stronger than nova warp both in its super and neutral game but ok
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1 ReplyAnother childish woe is me post. Yes the nerf was a bit too much in some aspects but there is no need to drag other classes into this when there’s nothing wrong with them.
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14 RepliesI'm a warlock main myself and the shadbinder still feels very very strong. [quote]WE’RE ALREADY THE WEAKEST PVP CLASS!!!![/quote] But this isn't true at all. Take a look how the dawnblade performs ([url=https://guardian.gg/2/class-stats?platform=pc&mode=5&start=2020-11-16&end=2020-11-23]source[/url]). We perform very good. We have good and bad subclasses, every class does.
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2 RepliesHad to happen, would of ruined the new raid and lasted way to long in pvp.
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31 RepliesEdited by Bore: 11/19/2020 7:06:51 PM[quote]Melee has more than half less range and only freezes people for one second?[/quote] Your math is off. 28/2=14 the nerf was down to 16. [quote] Super lasts shorter now and is weaker? [/quote] The longest lasting super in the game now is 27 seconds. The warlock super is now 26 seconds. They also reduced the cost of the freeze attack. [quote] Iceflare bolts are now practically useless? [/quote] Nope [quote] And none of these nerfs affect hunters or titans?! [/quote] The nerfs to the cold snap affect all classes. [quote] It’s like nova warp all over again, but shadebinder wasn’t even nearly as strong as nova warp, and we didn’t even get more than 9 days to enjoy it![/quote] It was one of the most well done nerfs we’ve ever gotten. The class is still one of the best in the game if not the best. Depends on the person. [quote] STOP NERFING WARLOCKS!!! WE’RE ALREADY THE WEAKEST PVP CLASS!!!! AAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH[/quote] Weakest class? Yeah, no. I remember you complaining about how bad the new warlock subclass was going to be when it was announced. Educated opinions are not your strong suit.
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Warlocks literally have the best everything with this update. You’re clowning and just want be stronger than the rest
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The only problem I see with it is the melee range otherwise its 100% fine. Still very viable and your just overreacting.
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8 RepliesCry baby. Bungie nerfs your warlock and you whine. That’s what you get for kissing Luke’s ass Lmao.
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4 RepliesI hope this is a joke. Stasis warlock is OP AF. Hunters are sadly weaker. Like our melee damage is radically small. And we die with literally two seconds. Warlocks have it ez.
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7 RepliesShade binder was so much fun to play with pre nerf. Now all I do is run top tree nova because they nerfed it so much it’s no longer enjoyable.
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Hunters need a stasis nerf. Have it’s tracking reduced
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17 RepliesPrior to this season top tree Dawn was the best pvp class far and away. No competition. This season it was stasis warlock. Sorry your cheesy ass AOE win button melee got nerfed alongside the longest lasting roaming super in game that could also 1v1 any super in game easily. Truly an injustice and now you might need to aim a gun. Better get a refund on beyond light. Seriously though anybody with half a brain cell can see that bungie mostly focused on nerfing 1hit freeze abilities Which warlocks had 3 of (penumbral, cold snap, ice flare) And the other classes only had 1 of (cold snap)
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They should over nerf stasis until it’s gone from the game.
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15 RepliesTitan mains say hello. Also we think you might be a little off. Try being needlessly nerfed for three years running.
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I don’t necessarily like playing any character other than my titan, but seeing the warlock stasis in cruci after the nerf.. it is sad. The second i was frozen, i broke out swinging at the guy who’d one it. He was too close for comfort and the frozen effect barely lasted enough for him to do anything about it. This is the problem with bungie. Feels like they do things in game with little to no thought. Yes the warlock stasis was ridiculous. And yes adjustments were needed but not like this.
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Shut up
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Nah warlocks aren’t the worst class in PvP. Hunters are, that’s why bungie needs to hold their hands with all the good exotics.
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s the unbroken warlock superskrub i am i would like to give you a loadout to make the babies cry again, any primary you like jotunn sprinty reloaders and every scavenger known to man with top solar, the screams never end.
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Edited by Kurama: 11/20/2020 5:10:09 PMMaybe because hunters take 2 shurikens to freeze, and it’s not instant, when warlocks only need 1 charge and it’s an instant freeze on contact. Meanwhile titans have a bash melee, not even ranged. And y’know.... 30 second ranged roaming super. Not a melee/aoe super, not a burst super.
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1 ReplyEdited by Harrowed Chaos: 11/20/2020 3:46:48 AM1. The melee is still good. It still has the intended purpose of punishing shotgun apes 2. You and I both know Iceflare Bolts are broken. A Coldsnap grenade just for killing a person that is stationary for 5 seconds 3. Half a minute of super is absolutely busted. It doesn’t matter what class but having a super that is 30 seconds is stupid
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its a crutch ability, dont rely on them
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2 RepliesYou guys are all crazy the melee isn't terrible or anything. It still freezes and kills things. Everyone's acting like it's useless or something. I still wreck people in crucible. I still dominate ads and other guardians in gambit. I still finish strikes in under 3 minutes. If you guys can't handle the nerf then that just means you're bad at the game sorry to say it.
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1. Super duration is now in-line with other supers (still lasts longer than some). Not too mention their attack could be spammed without consuming energy and kill enemies through walls/across the map if frozen. 2. No other melee abilities freeze on impact like the warlock stasis; thus, why they targeted warlocks. 3. Warlocks are not the weakest class in the crucible, especially when considering stasis. Top tree dawnblade is still top tier, but stasis was so broken it nearly made it obsolete. 4. FREEZING SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN A THING IN CRUCIBLE, with the exception being from supers. 1 second of being froze is still longer than most weapons ttk in the game, so quit crying you can’t abuse this anymore. 1 second is more than enough.
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You weren't even here for Nova Warp. I guess you're never going to be honest about your knowledge or skill.
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warlock got neutered, clipped, snipped, castrated, spayed, sterilized ......
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Top tree dawn would like a word.
