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Edited by Dredgen-Tex:
3/18/2019 12:37:06 PM
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STREAMERS DO NOT REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY!
Is this plain and simple enough for you to understand? How much more do we have to say about this topic. Upvote please get this on the top of the forums!
Update: great response! Let’s see if anyone at the top acknowledge this post.
Update: well we got an answer but no real change, let’s face it the game is about $$$$ and that’s all. Streamers provide free advertising and that’s it. Side note I looked but not one of the money grubbing streamers replied to post (I could be wrong) but that just shows you they are not in touch with the community.
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#destiny2
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6 RepliesMy idea for a GRAND way to make people happy , Give us something Close to Destiny 1 Vanilla Crucible for crucible. Give us back all the old raids via Infinite Forest. Take out the GOD AWFUL TOKEN SYSTEM IN RAIDS, fix your damned network, every since forsaken its been going down hill a bit. Make sure Xur ALWAYS IS ABLE TO SELL THE NEW DLC exotics at the very least 2 months after the dlc drops, not quest ones though. Vanilla Destiny 1 seemed to have almost nice sweet spot of Exotic drop rate.
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10 RepliesBungie did listen to these forums when they made D2 and it didn't turn out very well. The suggestions and criticisms that the 'streamers' made at the first summit led to Forsaken which is the best Destiny has ever been.
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1 ReplyAnytime streamers are mentioned,I can’t help but think of that asshat kackis.Man that dude is annoying.
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Okay, who does?
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Yes they do
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True, but playing devil's advocate to the argument, a handfull do live play testing for balance and play the game a lot more than your average player. So it is alot easier for a company to use them as a baseline for input on the game. Do I think their needs to be changes that have been voiced heavily in the forums, yes. Cough enhancement cores cough. Outside of that, how else do you think a company should choose people for a player summit that would have beneficial input at a roundtable?
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Who would you rather represent the game, a dude that plays the game for like 4 hours a week, or a guy who plays this game every day. Bungie wants their most loyal fans to stay loyal, while also keeping their causal fans happy. That's why they introduced power surge bounties and whatnot. That's also why multiplayer modes don't have power requirements. [spoiler]Kappa[/spoiler]
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19 RepliesI’ve posted this elsewhere & I’ll post it here also [quote] For as much as people like to go on about streamer boogeymen, you have to realise that these people have essentially been voted for by the community as their representatives. It makes sense that they are the ones being invited to the summit, considering that they have by far the biggest platform of all members of the community. They are also usually pretty hardcore players, A.K.A the players that stick around & are the backbone of the game. I may be remembering incorrectly, but I’m pretty sure a hardcore direction was exactly what these forums were asking for [b]all of Year 1.[/b] Like a lot of people have said, their feedback is how we got Forsaken. And on the point of listening to the average joe (even though through their subscribers & viewers, streamers have been voted for by average joes), Bungie listened to your average joe in regards to D1 Vanilla & as a result we got D2 Vanilla. Yeah, I’m happy to take my chances with streamers.[/quote]
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3 RepliesWhat exactly are people afraid of the streamers saying, or advocating for? Why all the judgement? No one ever goes into detail, they just generalize "streamers are bad for the game". The closest I can get is Enhancement Cores are streamers fault, but they're really not that bad. Could always require less for infusion, but still not that bad. All games as a service have a pita grind.
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Coco the clown represents this community Place is full of whinging self entitled millennial.
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1 ReplyWHINY PIECES OF SHIT ON FORUMS DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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6 RepliesHere comes the real question. Would you rather have someone like me or datto attending this summit?
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Get out and vote...🤟
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1 ReplyThen who does? You? Or the other screeching tards invalidating their opinions by going on rants about enhancement cores? Yeah I don't think so. That guy on twitch, who sees thousands of opinions about 200 things daily and knows how to filter out trolls and morons? Yes, that's a good pick.
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This^
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Neither does the community. Pretty much every post on here is subjective. That's the reason Bungie ignore EVERYONE 😂😂😂😂
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So 12 year old children who whine on the forums are the ones who represent the community?
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Lets just invite a bunch of raging forum posters to a summit. That would go well. Half the people try to insult eachother
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If they’ve been listening to streamer all this time then obviously the streamers are dumb as hell because this game has fallen into the sunken place.
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If you are talking about the community summit they got streamers and content creators because they can communicate to a larger audience than other players about what they experienced.
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Actually they do. If they are watched, it means they are supported by the community and therefore represent their decisions. Also also the Bungie forums don’t actually represent anything, since opinions are taken from reddit anyways.
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Yes the 12 year olds crying 24/7 on the forums represent this community!!!
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I have mixed views on this. I do wonder when, behind closed doors, if streamers put forward their own views or those of the community, or both. I think it’s very easy to swap what “I” want for what “They” want when you have a conversation with someone because it tends to be your personal views that come to the fore. I just don’t enjoy their content so don’t watch them or interact. The OTT fakery and loud mouthed brashness gets a bit wearing. Although, conversely, kudos to them for their charity work.
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No you don't. You are a snowflake. In a sea of other snowflakes. You do not represent the masses.
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2 RepliesWhen it comes down to it, who would you rather attend a summit to talk about the game's problems: People who've 'no-lifed' the game for thousands of hours and know every intricacy, every in-and-out of the game, and are better tuned to it, or people who play the game en passant (in passing), so to speak, playing for only a couple hours a week and then dropping the game when they complete the main story or hit the max power level? As much as it might benefit us to have both sides of the conversation heard, it's probably not ever going to happen. Because A: a lot of the people who work or have too many commitments to play the game on a daily basis also have too many commitments to attend a 4 hour long summit talking about the game they play infrequently. And B: While the casual player is the bulk of the population, the hardcore streamers and content creators are what keep the game alive. They draw new players to the game, and as such, they're the ones Bungie will listen to for advice because they're the ones that draw people to their game. Streamers aren't happy, they leave, and if THEY leave, there's a lot less people that play that game and that will come to the game in the future. And that would be bad for business. Also, some streamers do have the casual player's best interest in mind. The biggest youtubers that you're thinking about, like Gladd, Datto, KackisHD, and the like, maybe not, but there's a few that carry a sentiment close to that of an average player.
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1 ReplySo who does? All the crybabies who want enhancement cores removed from infusion, instead of learning how to manage resources effectively? 🤦
