Eric [url=https://twitter.com/UrkMcGurk/status/711971135693279235?s=09]sent this tweet out[/url] to manage expectations so we wouldn't be disappointed with the update.
It did the trick - my expectations are now so low that I don't think anything could disappoint me now...
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And sure enough, thanks to Eric's expectations management, I wasn't disappointed by tonights' reveal! :)
(The new challenges look like they'll be a bit of fun. So far it looks like there'll only be one endgame activity where you can get the highest level loot, but I think Bungie have things to say about gear and loot next week, so will await further info)
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There's been quite some good discussion over this post - thought I'd address some of the key points here:
[b]Why did you have such expectation over a [i]free[/i] update?[/b]
[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/14179/7_Bungie-Weekly-Update--12102015]When this update was announced in a December "this week" blog[/url], it gave the impression that it would be quite significant. At first I even thought it would be a DLC. After accepting that would be too much for a free update, I thought at least we could have updated versions of existing content.
The announcement was therefore a bit of a disappointment, given the impression the Dec announcement gave.
[b]Why are we calling for reskins instead of new content altogether?[/b]
As it's a free update, completely new content would have been expecting a bit much. Bungie are currently working on sequels and expansions where we can expect bigger things.
Updating VoG and CE (and PoE) would have been a relatively easy way to increase the number of end game challenges from one to four, increasing the variety. With VoG and CE, all it would take is to up the light levels and assign appropriate loot.
[b]Blaming Urk/Deej/Bungie etc[/b]
Believe it or not, I actually think this community has a bit too much of a tendency to shoot the messenger and think we should give the guys a bit more slack. Eric was giving us information, even though he was the bearer of bad news!
I think it's easy to forget that Bungie give us a lot more than most devs too. With most games we play through once, and then are happy to leave them until the next installment comes out. Bungie, in comparison, has continually worked to improve the game. As well as the content, they're also continually tweaking things, sometimes experimentally, sometimes making mistake, but always making an effort to improve the game. It's a lot more than most game devs give their players.
I've also gotten far more fun and playtime out of this game than most others.
I think they do have a bit of a problem with miscommunication. On this occasion, a Dec blog post raised expectations too high, which weren't met and caused disappointment. (Hence the disappointment expressed) I still overall appreciate the work they do.
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5 RepliesI don't want an updated VOG and CE or POE. I want new content, not content I grinded out for a year. I feel like people are trying to recreate year 1. It was fun, it's what got most people addicted, but it's in the past. I don't want to be stuck with Fatebringer, Blackhammer, and Ghorn for another year. I want new raids, new strikes, new armor, new story missions. If they bring old content back I won't be returning, I'll come back when new stuff lands.
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1 ReplyMann bungie ain't giving u "more than most devs".. Go play warframe a month. Then say that. They really arnt. And all this " free" talk.. U paid DOUBLE FOR TTK. This shit ain't free
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7 RepliesHmmmm..... GTA been handing out free DLC for about how long now?
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19 RepliesPut this garbage in the bin and come join the fun in the division. It was purge day yesterday in the dark zone. Destiny is dead, get over it buddy by getting into a new game. Let's face it you lot are waiting around like junkies for your next hit when really all your going to get is prison of elders which you have already paid for and played in year 1 house of wolves era. Let's put a taken shader on the armour and viola, new content! It goes to show you just how low people's standards really are. Break the addiction bro, get out into the open air and don't look back.
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1 ReplyBungie should be working on sequels for D2. Bungie shouldn't be working on expansion for D2. That's what happen with this game, maybe this time they'll learn to keep the expansions to themselves instead of showing them off.
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11 RepliesA Strike that hasn't been in the game before, that classifies as [b]completely new free content[/b], doesn't it? Prison of Elders rework with [b]8 new bosses[/b] and a completely new weekly event within Prison of Elders. [b]that's more NEW free content[/b]. More armour, weapons and etc. that aren't just reskins, well, that's [b]more new free content[/b].
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10 Replies[quote] [b]Blaming Urk/Deej/Bungie etc[/b] I think it's easy to forget that Bungie give us a lot more than most devs too.[/quote] Bungie's issue since Destiny launched is they can't get NEW content out of the door fast enough or in large enough supply. The Taken King should NEVER have been a fixture for 7 months+ at the size it was. It would need to be 2-3 times the size in terms of activities and locations to warrant that time span. Regarding this April update - they've had 7 months to get this right and if they want this to tide us over to September and the next paid expansion it needs to deliver in a big way particularly replay value. Either Bungie don't know what they're doing or their tools are highly inefficient to use. We will know a lot more once the first twitch stream is over.
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1 ReplyI barely patrol, but I'd be happy if the update makes Taken stop taking over areas. I'm so over that.
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17 RepliesSo it went kinda like this: Eric: Deej , tell them there wont be upgrades of the past raids in this update . Deej: Uuhm sir , master , your highness , i cant save myself from all the hate mail as it is right now.... Eric: Take the hit soldier! Deej: Uuuhm , uuuhm , sir screw you sir . Im out this mf. Eric: Damn u soldier ! COSMO! Get your pansy a$$ over here right now. *COSMO hiding in a closet* Eric: Deej ??!!! COSMO??!! ,, darn , i guess i will have to tell them. How hard coud it be? .... *Posts messege* * Shitstorm ensues * *hides in the closet * Eric: Oh there you are COSMO. COSMO: Now you know sir .... now you know....
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This is the first time i have ever had the attitude that I believe we are ENTITLED to FREE "substantial" updates/ expansions/ DLC of the game. TTK was sold and advertised with the expectations of a large update and then an even larger one through out the year. I believe we were told we were paying for as much before it came out. I don't know what they are planning, no one does, upgrading the old raids would have been nice, but i still would have expected, and do still expect, more then updated stuff we have already done. I love this game, and I will be on the pre order for Destiny 2... But they sure are making it a rough ride.
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1 ReplyNever seen so many panties in a bunch over a video game update.
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5 RepliesThe April Fools update.
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1 ReplyThanks for actually thinking about something for once. Not too many people will go past their egos on this forum.
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3 RepliesThe communication is 100% of the problem.
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Anyone else catch "sweet dick" in the title
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https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/197505459/0/0
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1 ReplyDon't worry, Bungie, after you left halo my expectations of you dropped lower than your fan base
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Im expecting some microtransaction riddled ploy in this "free" update....please don't let me down Bungie.
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5 RepliesNothing is free homey. This update has been paid for.
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2 RepliesDoesn't matter. Destiny is dead dude.
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4 RepliesI wonder how pathetic people's lives are that they are genuinely upset and let down when a free update in a 1.5 year old game won't include the oldest raid with higher numbers on the same guns. Just play the old raid. It's right there... I am excited for whatever content Bungie will announce because I like all of Destiny and am not a bitter old hag who plays to fuel an addiction. Also, it's [b]free[/b].
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Hey, last year we paid 2x the $$$ to get a year's worth of a game. This year we paid 1x the price and are getting the proportional 50% of a game. Either way you cut it, it's the kind of math that keeps the BungieVision bean counters happy.
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3 RepliesEdited by M3NAC3 360: 3/23/2016 9:04:23 AMLook at how the tweet is worded. No VOG/CE stuff for April. To me that implies VOG and other old content is coming in the paid DLC. Which would be a real kick in the balls. Also, you could tell there would not be any significant content in this free update because of how it was worded and described. It was always described as "New PvE challenges" which is basically slightly tweaked current content. Just like they did with Kings Fall. I know we have a new quest and strike, but that is a pitiful amount of content considering we are 6 months since release. This also means they are raising the light level for no god damn reason.