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Edited by Red Motive:
10/16/2015 2:23:11 AM
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Sunbreaker is not as Over-Powered as you may Think (New Iron Banner Statistics)
[I][b]Disclaimer:[/b] Data is parsed from more than 75,000 games. If you have any enquires about the data collected take it up with the collector whom you may find at the link provided near the bottom of this post. Thank you.[/I]
[b][u]Iron Banner Subclass Charts[/u][/b]
Curious how your Subclass ranks in Iron Banner? Here's a few charts to highlight a few statistics.
[u]Subclass Popularity:[/u]
- Pie Chart: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jAMKZMyjKKSIqkmfbidJfNnff9kc5cURiLl9Z7e9CpU/pubchart?oid=109707480&format=interactive
- Most popular: Sunbreaker at 21.4%.
- Least popular: Defender at 1.60%
- Average popularity by Class: 44.41% for Hunters, 28.2% for Titans and 27.39% for Warlocks
[u]Subclass Average Kill/Death (K/D) Ratio:[/u]
- Bar Chart: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jAMKZMyjKKSIqkmfbidJfNnff9kc5cURiLl9Z7e9CpU/pubchart?oid=1406256444&format=interactive
- Highest K/D Ratio: Gunslinger at 1.0945%
- Lowest K/D Ratio: Striker at 0.9102%
- Average K/D Ratio by Class: 1.0447 for Hunters, 1.0041 Warlocks and 0.984 for Titans
[u]Table:[/u]
https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3opxes/iron_banner_subclass_charts_showing_average_kd/cvzco81
[u]Source:[/u]
https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3opxes/iron_banner_subclass_charts_showing_average_kd/
[b]Edit:[/b]
I can not get to all of you and I apologise for that. Another thing: before completely ignoring these statistics try and take into account not only the super but the vast majority of the game as well - i.e. time spent without a Super. Because the Sunbreaker Subclass is so heavily focused around Hammer of Sol, it is left with a mediocre neutral game with few options in comparison with others - e.g. Gunslinger. This is what turns the tide and puts Gunslinger at top. That and the fact that Golden Gun is still extremely good. For example unlike Hammer of Sol if Golden Gun is activated in your line of sight your chances of survival are extremely low due to it being extremely difficult to avoid in comparison to Hammer of Sol thanks to the lack of travel time, lack of arc, high aim assist and so on.
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Edited by ConnorCT10: 10/16/2015 12:56:04 AMI know if I was to use SUNBREAKER my kd would jump from 2 to 3 so nerf it All the try hard a run Titan now
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1 ReplyYou need to understand that most of these Sunbreaker Titans were the same baddies who were using blink/shotgun before. They think that switching to a powerhouse subclass will make them better. But nope.
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2 RepliesYou realize all this proves is that even though there's almost twice as many hunters compared to titans, sunbreaker is the most use subclass right? And don't give me this "its the only good pvp subclass" because that's a load of horse shit. Strikers are fantastic in PvP with a great super and awesome nades as well as a mostly OHK melee. Until there's statistics that show how many kills a specific SUPER has gotten, Is shown, none of this disproves the SB being op, if anything, the fact that every titan player seems to flock to it, proves that it is. And I don't wanna hear shit about all these supposed "blade dancing assholes" that I see people complaining about as these stats say they aren't a problem
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Wow looks like all the people crying for nerfs are a bunch of -blam!-ing babies! Hunters still are used more and have higher k/d's!!! Lol
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What does this prove exactly?
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1 ReplyITT: posting a bunch of unrelated numbers equals proof
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Just because I don't play on my titan doesn't mean it's OP or not...
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Proof the Density community complains about everything and appreciates nothing
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Neutral game I give it to sunsingers in my own opinion. But in the end it still depends on who's playing it and if they know how to build there subclass and use it properly
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All that says is titans with a crutch are still scrubs and are getting owned
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97 RepliesStats mean nothing...just play pvp and see how op and easy it is to get hammer kills...it's like a golden gun w 7 shots, life regen, and improved defense...lol...yea...
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6 RepliesIdk who to agree with, to my personal experience it's not super OP because if you activate it in front if like 2 people they will kill you before you can get a hammer out, I never get double kills or more unless the people are side by side, and I've been 1-shot multiple times by a golden gun, and I've also been beaten out by a Stormcaller, I think overused is more of the correct term and should replace overpowered, and if for whatever reason I'm not using the right settings to make the hammer of sol overpowered please enlighten me as to what I'm doing wrong and which perks I should use so I can re-test it and see if my opinion changes, until then my opinion remains the same and nobody will change it so don't bother arguing
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16 RepliesLol you can't shoot GG twice before 1 hammer gets to you across map. It's not slow, the blast radius is huge, and it's way OP. Stop defending the crutch, you kids have no argument. If GG and Nova bomb both had 7 shots or 7 mini nova bombs, with tracking, healing, massive blast radius, and huge armor increase with damage reduction, you'd all cry like little girls even more. It's absurdly OP. Everyone scatters as soon as you hear it. It needs to be nerfed to 3 hammers and it needs to be able to die from 1 GG shot and any HIGH impact sniper headshot once. Otherwise I want 7 GG shots or 7 nova bombs and healing etc to even out the playing field. There's more Hunters than any other.
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Lol this is so wrong, misinformed and stupid, the worst part is these brainwashed idiots on here will read your dumbass post and take it as truth. Good job on contributing to the downfall of human intelligence, ignorant -blam!-.
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That doesn't show shit lol, that just says people like to play as a hunter ahaha
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4 RepliesIf somebody activates golden gun in my line of sight, I kill the for being a moron. The animation takes a second and they get ZERO damage resistance. They're paper. Also, let's not forget about the current tether glitch that's going around. Definitely bad for your statistics
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3 RepliesEdited by KLGChaos: 10/15/2015 10:19:35 PMReal Sunbreakers roll with max discipline, then strength with Seething Flames while using Skullfort and Monte Carlo. No super needed. >.>
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All this post proves is people who use sunbreaker lack skill?
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No matter if it's actually overpowered or not, how does the amount of people using it or the k/d ratio of the classes relate to the strength of the super?
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3 RepliesEdited by Brandolier: 10/15/2015 8:13:39 PMIt is still the 2d highest KD, but I suspect there is a reason it is not the highest. It is the FotM class for people who are not terribly skilled and want easy kills. You have a TON of really sub-par players rocking Sunbreaker right now because they want to feel strong and they are bringing down the K/D. When I play as my Sunbreaker it is by far the easiest class to post high K/D with. Statistics alone don't always tell the whole story.
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Just played a game that was fairly even but then 4 titans ended up using their supers one after the other, then two hunters were able to use their shadowshot and rinse and repeat...went from 5k/5k to 5k/19k in a matter of 2 minutes. It is op when there is no counter at all. I love so breaker but it's way too strong.
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6 RepliesEdited by Fruffy Kitteh : 10/15/2015 8:48:52 PMthis is the stupidest post ever, how does this prove that sunbreaker isn't OP ? [spoiler]it is[/spoiler] but this post was just a bunch of charts so I'm confused of what the poster is trying to say
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1 Reply[quote]before completely ignoring these statistics try and take into account not only the super but the vast majority of the game as well - i.e. time spent without a Super. Because the Sunbreaker Subclass is so heavily focused around Hammer of Sol, it is left with a mediocre neutral game with few options in comparison with others[/quote] God forbid you have to rely on your skill as a gamer... Liiiiike hunters?
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19 RepliesEdited by Redacted3630: 10/15/2015 6:44:50 PMThe reason Titans are struggling is because half the Titans on the game are awful at PvP. Iron Banner is where most of the good PvP players play which means these Titans can't just rely on their supers.
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6 RepliesEdited by Darches: 10/15/2015 9:42:18 PMSo Sunbreaker is the most popular PvP class, with the 2nd highest K/D? Used by scrubs everywhere? I'd say that's OP. Gunslinger actually requires aiming. We don't get armor or healing or tracking or AoE... Only pros play Gunslinger, therefore it makes sense that it has the highest K/D. [b]Your stats literally prove that Sunbreaker is OP[/b]. I'm surprised that Strikers have a lower K/D than Defender. They should still be getting more kills though, which is important...
