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Edited by RIGHTEOUSEPH: 4/10/2015 1:55:26 AM
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Still think what Mr. Fruit said didn't Impact Bungie? Then read this.

And they say they will see what they can do. .... Edit: Apr 09. This is them Once Again referring to Mr. Fruit. Like I said, the Nerfing needs to End. Now All you people will see is Thorn Thorn and oh that's right More Thorn! With an Occasional Pulse user who didn't get their Thorn yet! Enjoy Crucible people. ... " Or, as Mr. Fruit put it earlier this week: Shotgun violence runs rampant in the Crucible. Can you ease his mind with some details? Kevin: The recent update to sandbox balance was the first step. Creating a new system to manage ammo drops will enable us to adjust the Crucible experience without altering other activities in your Director. We believe that making ammo more scarce and important will provide players with more choices and more memorable encounters in Crucible." "How can we make the game better for a player as fruity as you? MF: From a gameplay standpoint, any of my viewers would be quick to let you know what I'd like to see changed! One word: Shotguns. I know people have debated this since release, but nothing is more infuriating to me then dying to shotguns" " We’ll certainly take that into account the next time we have a raging internal debate about how we invest our time and passion into the next Bungie games that we hope you’ll play" EDIT: My Suggestion to Bungie is Make Shotguns a 2 or 3 hit kill and Return the Range it had from Day One. Then what do you have? Pretty much Thorn that's what. But Seriously, we Need Range Back in PVE so that's my Suggestion. Oh and for the Love of this Game Don't Nerf Damage in PVE in the process, it's Finally Fun in PVE just needs more Range.
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  • Yup, just going to cause even more people to use the last word and thorn even more, not going to fix any problems just exacerbate other ones.

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  • Some of you guys turn updates into a godamn X-Files episode with your "theories".

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    • You think Bungie would make a decision about their game that millions play, based off the opinion of one mook youtube maker? Come on man...

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    • Lol after I shoot sum one with a shotgun I alway punch them anyway so that would mean more people will do that also. What would benefit this game more than anything would be to disable all nerf and buff comments. No matter what they nerf it just makes a new gun get cries for a nerf. Limiting ammo just makes you use regeneration guns (ice breaker etc....) I can't believe anyone thinks nerfing anything is a good idea.

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    • Thorn is more overpowered than the original vex mythoclast but people are too blind to see it.

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      • Shotgun haters need to shut the f*ck up. For people who've been using shotguns in Crucible since day one, it's about time our shotguns do damage. Sure, 2 shot kill from out of range would be a decent nerf, but anything more is ridiculous. You know what's a two shot kill from across the map? Thorn. Until you taints scream and cry about Thorn as much as shotguns, no one cares about your shotgun caused tears.

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        • Edited by ChinNationFTW: 4/13/2015 7:18:45 AM
          If you listen to the recent PlanetDestiny Podcast, Deej said Bungie already heard all these Feedbacks(Cries) about Nerve or whatever way before Mr. Fruit. What Mr. Fruit said just help Bungie confirm that is what most people want.

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        • Then Fusion rifles(excluding Vex Mythoclast) should also be weakened

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        • So why does this matter? Serious question

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        • More range? It received a 200% dmg buff in pve already, what more could you possibly need with that much devastation

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          • Bless him for having the balls to state his personal opinion. A lot of YouTuber's wouldn't have the guts for fear of damaging their viewer (income) base. Bravo to him. Agree with him or not, I can respect it.

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          • Lol fruit is irrelevant to the patch. it was already being created.

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            • They are almost ready to release the patch which probably means it's been with Microsoft for awhile for certification, way before this "Mr fruit" started leaking juice because he'd been killed by one too many shotguns.

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            • Just letting you know, Bungie was wanting to change the way ammo works. It's obvious if you look at an earlier update.

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            • More range in PvE?! Wouldn't be a surprise to see people all lined up near central conflux to defend left and right confluxes with shotgun one day. I guess...

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            • I've never used Thorn in Pvp and I never will :)

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            • We need shotguns like vanilla Gears of War. Pre patch with the ability to roadie run into a blast.

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            • "Make shotgun 2 hit cuz dey kill me." Every game ever, a shotgun is a one hit kill. Destiny players are just whinier than everyone else.

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              • Strange. You claim this is because of Mr. Fruit. Why am I seeing this in the 1.1.2 teaser just after the 1.1.1 release on March 12 then? "PVP Ammunition – The Crucible team wants to change the way ammo crates dictate the flow of a battle."

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                • F*ck Mr Fruit.

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                  • Edited by Th3Element05: 4/10/2015 2:27:10 AM
                    It's hilarious how everyone who quotes that interview with Mr. Fruit 'conveniently' omits half of Mr. Fruit's response. [quote]Bungie: How can we make the game better for a player as fruity as you? MF:  From a gameplay standpoint, any of my viewers would be quick to let you know what I'd like to see changed! One word: Shotguns. I know people have debated this since release, but nothing is more infuriating to me then dying to shotguns, and they're made even more powerful because almost every map tailors to their close-quarters play-style. [b]As far as helping from a content creator standpoint, I'd love to see some addition of a theatre mode, or a hudless mode, or a peaceful mode, or whatever you want to call it. Being able to freely move a camera with no HUD would be amazing![/b] Bungie: We’ll certainly take that into account the next time we have a raging internal debate about how we invest our time and passion into the next Bungie games that we hope you’ll play – and talk about. [/quote] The commonly omitted part is in bold. It adds an entirely different context to Bungie's response, doesn't it?

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                    • My invective and universal remote say that the shotgun violence has only just begun.

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                      • Edited by BigHandsMcNubbs: 4/10/2015 4:30:54 PM
                        They aren't nerfing shotguns at all in PvP or PvE. They changing the way special ammo spawns so that people won't be able to (as effectively) use secondary weapons as primaries. This was in the update a week or two before Mr. Fruit's highlight, and it is very much needed in the crucible. Edit: also, since when has Bungie ever responded that quickly? Were you not aware that shotguns are probably the most complained about weapon on these forums? You can't swing a dead cat around here without seeing a "nerf Felwinter's Lie" thread. It's ridiculous to think that Mr. Fruit had anything to do with this last update which will in no way affect the performance of the shotgun itself.

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