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10/28/2007 11:59:25 PM
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Could the planet in the final cutscene be...New Theory **(Spoilers)**
***Fatcatlives on's Earthly Theory***
This idea is based on the theory that Master Chief DID go back in time when the portal collapsed on him.
It could be an early version of Earth before humans were on it.
When I was reading a terminal( I forget which one) the forerunners said they were putting a solution to the flood on a planet, before they were wiped out. It also says that they built the creatures a beautiful garden to prosper in( Garden of Eden ). That they were going to bury it under sand and hope that when they put creatures(humans) on Earth they will find it and use it to kill the flood.
The planet does look forerunner, so I think it's definitely possible that it could be Earth when the forerunners were trying to build the final solution to kill the flood.
***More Proof***
The star rising up behind the planet in the last cutscene is blue( a young star ). As a star gets older it changes from blue to yellowish-orange( the sun today ).This proofs that Master Chief DID go back in time when the portal collapsed.[url=http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/031006a.html]Proof[/url]
The front part of the ship with the Arbiter in it landed near Earth, so why wouldn't it be possible for the Master Chief to land by Earth only earlier in time.
***The Final Cutscene***
Here is a link to the final [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wa1mzhibdU]cutscene[/url]
Please keep this thread alive!! Thanks.
[Edited on 10.28.2007 7:21 PM PDT]
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it's the core of onyx read the books. fail.
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I got this pic from iris [url]http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i108/ffchad/?action=view¤t=Infestation.jpg[/url] I dont know but the planet and the pic look really similar p.s Halo 4: start another fight [url]http://www.break.com/index/halo-takes-over-the-world.html[/url] [Edited on 10.29.2007 12:34 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Big Ninja Sauce A young star is not blue. A blue star is one of the hottest stars. Not our sun. The forerunner's found humans on Earth and created the portal to the ark to protect them from the flood. A jump through slipstream space would more likely cause a trip to the future than the past. [/quote] I concur my good sir (heh, that rhymes).
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A young star is not blue. A blue star is one of the hottest stars. Not our sun. The forerunner's found humans on Earth and created the portal to the ark to protect them from the flood. A jump through slipstream space would more likely cause a trip to the future than the past.
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This is a perfect open ending to make yet another game. "finish the fight" doesn't necessarily mean finish the story. It just means that you're finishing the conlfict of the covenant and the rings and blah blah blah. I mean, why not make a sequel? They've made millions of dollars off of the Halo franchise. Why stop milking the cow when there is more milk to be milked? I say Bungie should squeeze that damn cow's utter until there is no more profit to be made. [Edited on 10.28.2007 11:49 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Danderson What do you mean, that he went back in time is a fact? I have seen no evidence at all to point towards that.[/quote] abscence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.
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I really want to know what he was talking about because I've also found about 20 other places its used.
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Lucky guess I took there :P
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Tau Ceti is an earth colony in Marathon Tau Ceti IV is: An Earth Colony in EVE Online It is also Reach in Halo: Fall of Reach Its also in Star Trek So which one is it...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KindSpartan I believe the planet to be Tau Ceti IV. I'll bet not one person can tell me what that is.[/quote] Is it something to do with Star Trek or something?
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I believe the planet to be Tau Ceti IV. I'll bet not one person can tell me what that is.
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I feel it necessary to correct you [i]fatcatlives on[/i]. What you say about stars is incorrect, ok in the first few fractions of a second in which the star is formed it will be super hot, but they cool down fairly quickly. Lets say this one odd star took, for some reason or another took 100000 years to cool down, to go from a...lets say O (spectral type) to the Suns class, G (which goes against physics seeing as something as hot as 30000 Kelvin + would be super massive and burn up much quicker than Sol would...or the Sun as we commonly call it), that still wouldn't be long enough for a planet to properly form, at least not one with an atmosphere that was habitable (which most theories assume this planet is). Anyhow a star actually tends to get hotter the older it gets as because the volume of helium in the star increases, consequently the star becomes hotter and brighter as so to stay stable (otherwise it wouldn't have the necessary energy to continue fusing hydrogen). ...oh, and to back up what I said [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] wikipedia: source of all knowledge As a consequence, in order to maintain the required rate of nuclear fusion at the core, the star will slowly increase in temperature and luminosity. The Sun, for example, is estimated to have increased in luminosity by about 40% since it reached the main sequence 4.6 billion years ago.[/quote] I'm gonna stick with they're stranded somewhere between point A (the Ark) and point B (Earth)...either than or they're in the [i]future[/i]. Shoving them into the past would just raise more questions.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Shady Brady 33 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] fatcatlives on [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hydrilus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] fatcatlives on This idea is based on the theory that Master Chief DID go back in time when the portal collapsed on him. It could be an early version of Earth before humans were on it. When I was reading a terminal( I forget which one) the forerunners said they were putting a solution to the flood on a planet, before they were wiped out. It also says that they built the creatures a beautiful garden to prosper in( Garden of Eden ). That they were going to bury it under sand and hope that when they put creatures(humans) on Earth they will find it and use it to kill the flood. The planet does look forerunner, so I think it's definitely possible that it could be Earth when the forerunners were trying to build the final solution to kill the flood.[/quote] No. The Earthen sun is yellowish-orange. The sun we see come over the horizon of the planet in the cutscene is blue - a much hotter sun than Earth's sun.[/quote] Thanks even more proof to my theory. As a star gets older it changes color from blue to yellowish-orange( the sun today). The star rising up behind it is blue because it is younger than the sun today.[/quote] This explains it! That is why Guilty Spark says he is forerunner! Because there are 'two" Master chiefs in different time frames. One in the forerunner age and the other in the destruction of the ark! Obviously the ark rerouted him to the past as a failsafe protocol so he could warn the forerunners about the future. Hard to explain in depth so if u get it, u get it...if you don't im sorry. And I also believe that the forerunners were elites AND humans working together because otherwise the elites would have no idea about the rings and not even be discovered by humans.[/quote] Its also exactaly why he says "when you asked me last time "blah blah blah" having had conciderable time to think about it, my awnser remains the same."
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Oo Fortune oO I think it may be Onyx the world created by sentinals/forerunners[/quote] Come on man give more of a theory than that. Support it, that comment is just going to get flamed. Lol just kiding, although it may get flamed. Did you read my theory on it. [Edited on 10.28.2007 10:43 PM PDT]
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I think it may be Onyx the world created by sentinals/forerunners
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Ok so here's my take on things [url]http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=14042298&postRepeater1-p=1[/url]. Read Original post before say its impossible.
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Ok i found the pages in First Strike 284 describes what Marine Corporal Locklear did,(and it was c-7, (a foaming C-4 like explosive, not a plasma gernade my bad), 287 States that the crystal was destroyed. So how is time travel possible, though the one thing that may have been able to lead to time travel was destroyed. Also keep in mind this crystal would have to be on Master Chiefs half of the ship or actually on his body. Do you have any other ideas on how time travel is possible. Im intuiged by your theory and like I said before they both raise more questions, than they answer. [Edited on 10.28.2007 11:09 PM PDT]
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EDIT: nVM [Edited on 10.28.2007 10:01 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Chaotic Gunner uh its definently not the crystal unless you think that it "somehow" made it back to earth even though dr halsey has it on onyx and it "somehow" got into the Forward unto Dawn[/quote] Another reason its not the Crystal. IT WAS DESTROYED one of the guys on the Covi ship after watchin is "lover" die, locked himself in a room and stuck it with some grenades, they detonated and the crystal shattered. And even if it was another crystal it effected slip space (not tme travel), where it bent the slip space area, hence the erractic paths of plasma bolts. Re-read the books you shall see. [Edited on 10.28.2007 9:51 PM PDT]
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The Mantle seems to be their system of government.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yokuz116 Either way, everything in the galaxy is dead so the flood won't come back. .[/quote] No, thats definently wrong.
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I think the planet is either a Forerunner planet or a Covenant planet. Either way, everything in the galaxy is dead so the flood won't come back. But there is something that made me frustrated. In the terminals, they talked about something called the "Mantle.' Citing that they know it works on the flood. But I have no idea what it is.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Noah UF [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] rockmaster The star being young proves in now way of him going back in time nor it being our solar system. I personnally belive it is Onyx because it has a metalic look to it, and when GoO eneded it was surrounded by sentinels. Also, on the level "The Ark" at the end all of the sentinels going into slip space on a priority mission, they could be headed for Onyx, eventhough Halo 3 takes place quite awhile after GoO does.[/quote]Those sentinels were clearly on their way to construct the replacement halo; I though that that was quite clear in the game, although, it is not explicitly stated.[/quote] oh THATS what they were doing? hm that does make sense, although i never gave it that much thought, i thought they just went somewhere to kill something
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] rockmaster The star being young proves in now way of him going back in time nor it being our solar system. I personnally belive it is Onyx because it has a metalic look to it, and when GoO eneded it was surrounded by sentinels. Also, on the level "The Ark" at the end all of the sentinels going into slip space on a priority mission, they could be headed for Onyx, eventhough Halo 3 takes place quite awhile after GoO does.[/quote]Those sentinels were clearly on their way to construct the replacement halo; I though that that was quite clear in the game, although, it is not explicitly stated.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ashleyismx Okay, didn't read all of the posts, so I don't know if someone's already said this. Young Blue stars do NOT go to yellow/orange, and then to red as they get older. They STAY their color until they explode, and blue stars usually DO explode. Our sun is orange/yellow because it started that way at it's birth. It's not as big as the ones that burn blue, and as our sun gets older, It'll probably go to a Red Giant. Blues do NOT go to red giants, they are too massive.[/quote] ya see thats exactly what i said
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i love this. its very belivable. i hope halo 4. or what ever bungie deside to call it come's out within 4 years..
