So after this guardian game's, I think warlocks need a massive buff constantly getting one shot by titan.Melee's hunter melee having ten fists to havoc around and every time I round a corner, there's a spectral blade that's unkillable. But oh no lightning surge was too strong
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Warlocks are probably the strongest of all it’s just they have a high skill threshold that most players don’t come close too. If they had the Hunters jump instead of theirs they would be absolutely untouchable.
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I won't claim that Warlocks don't need buffs (they definitely do, especially underused subclases like Arc), but your reasoning about the "one-hit-melees" is way off. The mount of times I get killed by a 1-hit melee vs. the number of times I die to other stuff is like 1:25. I promise that you are not losing because Hunters and Titans have OHK potential on certain builds.
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2 RepliesWhat Warlocks need is an option with a lower skill floor. They have a great ceiling; the issue is both other Classes have lower floors, so if you aren't the greatest at PvP, the best option is to just not play the Class. It should go without saying that whatever is given this PvP skill floor should also have a correspondinly low ceiling. Lightning Surge would probably be a good baseline for it.
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Basically no titan melees can ohk in pvp but okay. At least not in practical ways, it either requieres perregrine grieves or a fully charged arc punch (forgot the name) 2 things that are pretty niche and unreliable due to many flaws. The rest is still 2 hit kill. And even if titans were capable of spaming ohk melees... Warlocks can spam ohk nades, so it evens out. Warlocks also has great melees (god that void melee is so cheap its a guaranted kill) Annoying buddies, and lots of healing. I truly dont understand how some bad warlocks can considere their class weak lmao. Just because "i cant melee ohk bwah bwah" ? Even toigh you are the only ones who can spam ohk nades ? XD
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I am so tired of the "Warlocks are actually really good in PvP" argument. Why? Because any idiot with thumbs can get on Hunter and do decently with little effort. Meanwhile you need to be a sweaty little basement dweller to get really, really good with Warlock and even then that's just to compete.
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7 Replies[quote]a spectral blade that's unkillable[/quote] Shoddy hit detection and one of the lowest amounts of DR available to a roaming Super (not named Golden Gun) is unkillable now?
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3 RepliesVoid warlock is easily an S tier PvP subclass.
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The Warlock kit has plenty to offer, it just needs to be built into and played around its strengths more. It generally has a higher skill floor to do well with compared to the other two classes. Solar arguably has the best movement of any class, and void can be extremely strong with 2-3x grenade charges and 2x melee charges now. I honestly feel that Warlock is deceiving because it is the easiest to pick up and play in PvE, but the hardest to pick up and play in PvP effectively compared to the other two classes. That does not really mean that it needs a buff. I have defeated PLENTY of spectral blades, both in Mayhem and in Supremacy. Warlock kit almost makes that too easy with the pocket melee and a Vorpal/Trench Barrel Aureus Neutralizer... also, you do have access to 2x supressor grenades if you choose to use them. I have been running that at times in Supremacy with good results if I know that the team I am playing with are more PvE than PvP players.
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2 RepliesYou seem to have a massive skill issue, then if you think locks need a buff lol
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1 ReplyThe main problem I see is everyone using hand cannons. I get it, they are good in pvp, but if bungie wants everyone to enjoy pvp then they need to substantially decrease hand cannon damage and make them harder to use or remove them. Seriously, after calculating 38 games of supremacy, I have found that 98% of the time I die is from hand cannons.
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1 ReplyGolden Gun is ridiculously op in Mayhem
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Titan melees one shotting? You sure you aren't playing Destiny 1?
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I mean yeah, I only play PvP on warlock because it so easy, but I'm for this ... buff warlock; specifically void warlock, pulse rifles, and Ophidians. This guy is a genius, he should be in charge of Destiny 2 PvP. Buff Warlock!
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Warlock main here. I’ll let the hunters and the titans be OP if I get my one shot hand held supernova back. 😁
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4 RepliesDid they nerf Lightning Surge? I've noticed Stormcallers whiffing that ability quite a bit lately.