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Edited by Bowsers Enabled: 11/27/2020 1:49:18 PM
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Stasis in PVP is the worst of every meta over 7 years rolled into one.

It’s not going to go away and all the matches revolve around your recharge rates and chucking stasis at each other. This is extraordinarily boring. Edit: I don’t know what anyone is talking about in respect to what guns anyone is using. I don’t pay attention and I tend to use ARs and scouts. If you are here complaining about previous seasons/years/metas, that is my point with stasis. It is all of that plus whatever the gun meta is. Edit 2: Because there might be confusion. I am not getting wrecked by Stasis. I play mid range, so I don’t have a lot of direct pain from it. Edit 3: Thnks Bungie, in less than a month, you created a shotgun/sniper meta. Most mid range guns aren’t capable of taking down a shotgun ape and because of Stasis, it’s either freeze em and charge or snipe from long range. This isn’t a natural meta and it shows.

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  • I hate being the guy that told you so but well you know. Give it time and there will be nerf posts till the new subclass is made worthless. Why create anything new when it will be nerfed or messed with at this point.

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    • While I do think stasis is a cool addition to the game in a PvE wise look, in PvP it's under tuned and it broke the game. A few loose thoughts: 1. Stasis under tuning is no accident, it was made on purpose to [b]sell expantions[/b], as most people will gladly pay for 'cheesing' tools; Thats what stasis is, a [b]cheesing tool[/b]... 2. Bungie gets a permanent seat in the [b]hypocrisy[/b] bandwagon; Look we're sunsetting all your arsenal because of [b]power creep[/b]... And then they place an utterly broken mechanic that is clearly an exponential level of 'power creep'. 3. They destroyed any weapon based meta; New meta is obvious, ability/grenade builds and massive spam of stasis cheesing nades... 4. No nades in game can multikill/instakill kill like this trash stasis non-senses; So, do we see a future update with nades being pumped up? stuff like magnetic nades and friends to instagib? 5. Nades that fully shutdown supers? Come on... Supression grenade was never like this, it was a powerful tool in the hands of the skilled people... a gamble most time.... this stasis crap? it's cheese... My advice, everyone should buy the expantion and grab the non-sense cheese power creeping trash they placed in it and destroy everyones experience. Keep destroying everyone's experience until there's no one left on the crucible playlist and until no one feels like coming back to Destiny anytime soon during the rest of our happy and long lifes. For the PvE people, I hope it never gets nerfed down and that it brings you a lot of joy... But PvP is trash now... Beyond Light, the expantion that killed Destiny 2 PvP and no one does a bloody thing about it.

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    • BUMP!

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    • The freeze part when you get frozen is my biggest problem why loose nearly all your health breaking out. Also it takes far to long to break out .

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    • I'm convinced everyone crying about this has absolutely no game sense or ability to touch their left analog stick. I get frozen maybe twice a game, and I'm not even good. Just keep pretending we didn't have almost 2 years of mountaintop spam and extremely aim assisted revoker up until this point.

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      • I usually get mad at pvp this now it enrages me

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      • The completely erased any sort of gun skill gap with one element... get used to it. Bungie doesn’t care a about pvp and if this Isnt a clear sign, I’m not sure what is.

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      • It sad that for everything Bungie does right they do several things wrong that overshadow anything they do that's good. For instance I really like the changes to gambit and I like the new difficulties added to lost sectors. But both those things are over shadowed and ruined by how over powered and broken stasis is. Also it sucks how there are no more enhanced mods and a few of the other changes to mods kind of suck and make modding even worse now which overshadows how they removed elemental affinity.

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      • To hell with pvp. They need to focus on the actual game for once

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        • I just came back to this game after not playing consistently since year 1. You can imagine my surprise when I encountered stasis in pvp. I still cant believe this made it through testing. For one, it is literally the definition of p2w. number two, you can never have a competitive landscape where you regularly experience total loss of agency. Stasis does that 100x a match for each player. In my entire life, I have never seen anything in pvp in a video game as meme as this

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          • Tis rather horrible. I stupidly bought the dlc just because I was constantly getting wrecked by the stupid thing

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          • Played my first match of crucible today for this season I like it People were using pulse, scout, and sniper rifles One guy decided to use a shotgun but he switched pretty quickly I only got frozen once and it was not that bad

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            • My only problem with it is the damage you take from breaking out of being Frozen. I don’t mind a little damage, but losing more than half your health is way to much.

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              • Do not nerf. Well, make break out quicker. Boost the other classes to really express the fantasy. That's all.

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                • I don’t want them to nerf it. I agree with you, it is busted and a miserable meta. I don’t want them to touch stasis even a little bit. I want them to REWORK THE OTHER SUBCLASSES. With the traveler healed and awake, it needs to give us stronger powers. It would work narratively, and it would work gameplay wise as well.

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                  • I agree! They need to nerf guns hat ever is freezing you every 30 seconds of every game. I’m getting killed more times from being frozen than anything else. Shotguns are a close 2nd. Every team I’m playing in comp is full shotguns everywhere. I’m rarely being killed by primary weapons. Clearly though stasis needs a huge nerf in PvP, it’s zero fun.

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                    • Edited by Saxifraga: 11/13/2020 11:45:28 PM
                      BUT JOKER .. I always said .. SEPERATE PvP and PvE! Both should be seperate game modes with seperate vaults. For some stupid "game lore" reasons, they (Luck "throw miney at the screen" Smith & Unworthy) are stuck with that design. In 2014 there were obviously two sets of perka and weapons for PvP and PvE, that just got mixed without making any sense.

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                      • I thought the problem with crucible in the weeks leading to beyond light was the lack of SBMM. But what the hell is this? I haven't won a match in 3 days. At least I felt decent before, but I haven't spent that much time dead ina match since I was a newbie. As of right now, I do not have the new expansion so I don't know the mechanics of stasis yet. I know, give it two weeks and Bungie will crank down a bit the power of the new exotics and possibly of stasis. The thing is that nothing works anymore. What's the point of sunsetting stuff if the meta is going to shift so much that only one or two exotic hand cannons, couple of 720 and Winged Vigilance are the only things mildly effective against the new stuff? Not everybody can shill out money the second new stuff is added. Maybe I'm just salty having to almost re-learn the gameplay but jeez

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                      • I have been playing and loving Destiny PvP since the D1 Alpha. I can't credit Bungie enough for so many years of fun and awesome content! But I absolutely cannot stand all the dang ice walls and getting frozen constantly in Crucible. I want to see how it plays out over the next few weeks, but It might be enough for me to call it quits. My play style has always been constant movement around the map, and it's fun killing to get frozen in place so often. Just stuck there. Doing nothing. In a FPS game. I want to be playing the hecking game, not static in ice! Witherhoard used to be my least favorite thing in PvP, now it is 10 times that all the ice and freezing in place nonsense

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                      • Worst. Pvp. Balancing. Ever. Fire your play testers, this is ridiculous.

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                        • It has changed the game for the worse. Unbalanced and needs tweaked. On top of what already needed touched. However rewind a few months ago and complaints were rampant. This IS a direct counter to previous complaints. Unpopular opinion, but that’s exactly what D2 Yr1 was. Took over a year to undo and balance has been debatable ever since as well. My whole clan is done with PvP now. We’re not the best, but used to do D1 trials when it wasn’t BS, and still do it sometimes as well as IB quests. Now it’s only for powerfuls and out as fast as possible. It’s not just stasis but the shit story, and lack of aspiration as Bungie puts it, that is driving us away. Who write this and put the scenes together!? Most 10 year olds could have done better

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                        • Mabey its just a console thing for me but I don't find stasis any more annoying then any other ability or super. Yeah the freeze timer could probably be brought down or quite frankly have it tap b/○ instead of hold but I think its fine.

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                        • I wouldn’t say it’s like every other meta combined. The only thing terrible about it is stasis. Warlocks in particular. The melee and super are absolutely busted. This is not a biased opinion either. Leveled one yesterday and it’s insane. The weapon balance right now is sooooo good! Everything is pretty much viable. The best it’s ever been imo. Unfortunately it is ruined by ability spamming on all sides and there is no clear counter to most of it except to run away and hide if possible. Stasis is extremely fun in pve. It is a great addition, but it definitely does not belong in pvp right now as is.

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                          • Guess what I played crucible. Guess what annoyed me the most. It wasnt people freezing me. It was the usual butthugging teamshooting that bad players stick to and think their good. That and getting thrown into matchs that were halfway over.

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                          • Just don’t be in range of a freezing ability Sorry felwinters

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