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Edited by TJ_Dot: 9/3/2019 3:42:18 PM
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Lunafaction and Rally leaked to lose auto-reload entirely and move to faster reload speed.

Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/cz3xyk/spoiler_not_sure_why_this_hasnt_been_posted_yet/ This is probably more harm than good because RIP all current meta and you should expect to revert back to Whisper. (way to make it "viable" again) This benefit's one gun: Izanagi, so that's gonna rule too, if the reload isn't crap Back to sniper meta, [i]horray[/i] You can expect all raids to be largely more annoying instead of challenging (because we should know better by now) 1-phasing as a thing is likely gone, meaning you're risking more wipe causing deaths and wasting more time for something that may easily not be worth it. Say goodbye to Riven because 90% of people running that raid are never going to do it legit after they find out that cheesing her is likely going to be impossible (Unless Izanagi saves the day or if we class restrict even harder on 5 nighthawks) Get 1K now Say hello to a much crappier LFG experience because not everyone can avoid dying forever, and with a lower damage output, you again risk a lot of wasted time Personal RIPs: Time Merciless Tarrabah (despite it not really having a chance to live) Loaded Question Coldheart Rat King Sweet Business Every single rocket Launcher All so we could stop: GLs with spikes Prospector Outbreak Darci Shotguns? And what are we left with? Whisper and Izanagi Given the best guns are going to be snipers (again) It's likely for yet another wobbly target sign of a raid boss, so prepare for your "challenge" of accuracy Guardians, because there's no way in hell this isn't exactly why this nerf is happening. I for one will be surely disappointed if Garden of Salvation is not made harder through new and innovated mechanics that shake up the norm for a fight in a good way (not bad because we get Reckoning 2) but through the same tired formula and nerfs
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  • Is this in pvp as well?

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  • Another example of Bungie doing too many 180s at once. Lunafaction and rally are the least of their problems, and they already have too many pending changes to track. To do this just ensures a lot more confusion in feedback. Then again, I guess they have to care.

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    • Does this stack with outlaw? Or rapid fire? Or is all stacking ruined.. COS CONTENT CREATERZZZZz 😒

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    • Depending on how quick the reload speed is shotguns may not fall under.

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    • Umm who you mad at?? Isn t this what the community wanted no more auto reload?? Y'all been calling for need for those things since datto made a video on it!! And a good chuck of the community on these forums at least agreed. Suck but this is what we get when we spam things and we can't seem to adjust to anything either .. we can't cheese no more .. so let's do things the way it was intended now..

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      • i understand your frustration, because some weapon relied hard on rally barricade and luna (sweet business is gonna be absolute trash) and i really hope the mechanics are gonna be innovative and challenging in the new raid. however, i am happy with that change if it actually happens. lets be honest, the whole game was really so much easier just due to this two things. people never learned the mechanics of riven just because of the combination of luna, well and cluster bombs. riven imo was one of the greatest boss fights ever created and now a lot more people will have the opportunity to experience it.

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        • Edited by Why is this happening?: 9/4/2019 10:41:58 PM
          Lunafaction confirmed to become the most useless exotic in the game, only rivaled by Wings of Sacred Shards? Gotcha.

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          • Edited by Touch: 9/4/2019 2:42:56 AM
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            I've done every Raid in this game. All this translates to me is 1, I'm probably staring into the eyes of a sniper (my least favorite weapon type) ...and 2, Raids are probably just going to get more annoying to complete for loot that really isnt worth it. Aside from 1k and maybe Acrius how many people main a Raid weapon? I'll give Chattering Bone a spot too. I know there will be a few of you who use Nation of Beasts but be honest, almost all Raid weapons are outdone by other legendaries that are far easier to get. While I understand the nerf, I dont think its justified without work in some better incentives.

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            • Edited by WulfPak666: 9/4/2019 9:59:37 PM
              Probably won't affect the Prospector cheese on Riven. Thing ammo dumps like 8 grenades and you'd only have to reload it twice. She's usually dead before I went empty anyway.

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            • Edited by Spacejim12: 9/4/2019 8:24:53 AM
              Well, bosses like Shuro Chi now will be stupid and finnaly more people will see, how stupid her mechanic are. Really, first they nerfed fire rate for rapid frame shotguns. Now they remove the ability to shot without reloads. Yes, right now people barely see the problem on Shuro Chi, cause we have 750 power level and our dps anyway fine if using proper weapon. But anyone remember days, when we steped into Last Wish raid first time? IKELOS SG was a absolut need on Shuro or good roled Badlander. Cause you have to deal tons of damage in couple seconds. Well, we could think there will be no bosses like Shuro Chi...but...come on. Pathetic Bungie devs can't make something more creative, then limited time dps phase bosess with wipe if dps not enough. Period.

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            • Ophidian Aspects and Luna do the same thing then? Wow.....smart......innovative.....

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              • Oh goody. Now titans are COMPLETELY useless. Just what I wanted.

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                • Of the many things wrong with your post, 'saying goodbye to Riven' bugs me the most. Riven may finally be played the way the devs intented to.

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                  • Good. Sick of the warlocks boring strats 👍

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                    • Itll make auto loading holster useful again.

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                      • For everyone having a go at the 1-phasing...yeah it's dull, no challenge etc. What's more the Riven fight is just about the only raid encounter in D2 that is actually worth playing through in full. And therein lies the issue. D2 raids have awful boss design, awful encounter design etc. Mixing up reload perks won't change these. 2 or 3 phasing a boss doesn't make the encounter any better, any mechanically different. A static boss with a DPS window stays a static boss with a DPS window. tl/dr - Luna/rally changes will not change poor raid encounters and poorly designed bosses.

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                      • Ghost: Hey Luke, guess what? Luke:? Ghost: The titans lost everything, and I mean everything. Luke: Yet another stunning blow to their morale.

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                        • Ppl spamming grenades now 😅 lots of warlocks in Pvp since that mountain top quest change but it is what is tho.

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                        • Honestly I think this is a good thing, however if Raid mechanics are still stand and shoot then Shadowkeep may be the last Bungie content I buy

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                        • Heaven forbid Bungie makes a boss that doesn't just stand in one location and let you load into them.

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                          • This is a good change, if true.

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                          • Edited by barny_bum_fluff: 9/4/2019 2:33:24 PM
                            Funnily enough ward of dawn and banner shield already provide enhanced reload speed [spoiler]the more you know[/spoiler]

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                          • I'm fine with auto reload mechanics getting changed but I blame bungie for letting this go on for too long they should've fixed the problem months ago instead of centering the game around them.

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                          • I’m sorry this game is going to be too hard for you. Have you considered Candy Crush?

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                            • I’m actually fine with this nerf. Lunafactions was actually the problem not well of radiance.

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                            • Then Whisper of the worm needs to be reverted ...

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