Comp is not fun... Im at 2700 and facing teams that already have Not Forgotten. What is the point? At this level a win then a lose means you're down from where you started. I don't want the gun given to me but at the same time this is way too much of a grind for a gun. I'd rather have to go flawless 30 times to get the gun

Started a new topic: If comp is a team bast game mode they dont lock the best gun in the game behind it(1 Reply)

[quote]Why are points deducted if you lose? Why not just frozen till your next win? If someone on my team, but not in my fireteam quits or lags out which results in a defeat for me why are points deducted? If I lose but am the best player on my team, why are points deducted? If I lose but am the best player in the match, why are points deducted? Why are 4 solo players put up against a stack of 4 players in a fireteam? Why o why is countdown so many boring rounds? 4 to win is more than enough for such a bad game mode. Can someone please give me answers to these questions, as I am so confused by this. Obviously you want competitive to be competitive, but this is just punishing beyond reasonable and it totally kills the fun. [spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been moved to #Feedback forum so that other Destiny players can weigh in. See [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/139533839/0/0]Cozmo's thread[/url] for more information about the #Feedback tag and its uses. Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler][/quote] You’ve only played competitive the week of January 5th and then back in November. You’re in Brave rank too. I think you need to try and LFG more because you haven’t played enough to really see how much you’ll improve your gameplay. I am a solo player in comp, it’s not that bad but matchmaking will help you out now. To be honest, going with teams below 1700 is waste of time. Plenty of game I had with other solos where we stomped the 4 stacks. Some 4 stacks suck at PvP (and that’s fine) but don’t be afraid to play it alone. Just keep at it

Last game. Two people leave at ~1 minute mark. Other team has Not Forgotten and Lunas; glory around 3400-5300 (I'm now 1860~). Nothing to do. Not even trying. Points lost. Clash is okay game mode but it can be broken badly by horrendous match making.

Points should be deducted upon loss. Otherwise it is not competitive. Edit: less points should be lost when someone leaves

I've hit legend, have not forgotten. And agree with all your points. It's not fun at all a win based progression rank would be better suited for destiny then their current attempt at competitive ranking. They also need to add glory gains to the top spot in rumble, would be a good environment for the solo q's

Points should be deducted when you lose, its competitive. However when it becomes a 3v4 I think you should have the option to surrender and save your points or still play and see if you can win for bonus points. I do think that the best player on a losing game of competitive should have their glory loses cushioned. Only lose half of what you would normally lose. Same goes for being the best player in the match. 4 stacks aren't that bad. At all. Just choose the right time of day to go into competitive. Yesterday around noon was prime time, all the sweats were in Iron Banner and so I went on a 15 streak and got to Fabled. I was with a friend sure but we still had a lot of randoms and we beat multiple four stacks with Luna's and other meta weapons. I do agree Countdown needs to be shorter. I usually lose my games of countdown for this reason and this reason alone. We'll be winning 4-1 and then because of stupid things like lag and all or shots not registering period we lose 6-5 because they had so many chances to come back. It needs to be 4 rounds to win just like survival. Im glad you actually want competitive to be competitive and aren't just complaining. You're asking legitimate questions and being mature. I dont think competitive is pushing things too far since the matchmaking changes honestly. Ive had 4 games of competitive since the changes that I would consider unfair and shouldn't have happened out of a good 25ish. And that was on the first day of said changes so I think its pretty solid now. However my matchmaking luck is most likely different than yours completely.

Sometimes 4 stacks sucks. It's better to go in with 1 friend, stick together and team shoot. It's a horrible grind but you'll be happy in the end. :) It'll be a sad day when they dumb down the quest. At least release an emblem for people that earned it the hard way or something...

Isn’t countdown six rounds? Whatever it is, it feels too long lol

I was going to make a post about this, but you beat me to it. I feel the same way. I decided to play season five late in the game yesterday. It's so discouraging going from guardian 1 to guardian 3 only to get set back to guardian 1 with only 30 points left from a series of losses. The randoms on my team don't play the objective. For the most part, I'm doing most of the work. Everyone plays recklessly and it ruins my chances of winning and I end up getting punished for it. I've never sent hate mail to anyone until today. I know it's a douche bag thing to do, but this team I was with was so bad I straight up lost it. I was the only one with a positive kd in the survival match and everyone was just feeding the enemy team kills. It was frustrating. That's just one of many of my terrible experiences. Today, I used golden gun on a guy not even 20 feet away from me. Shot him three times. None of the shots registered. He slid towards me and shotgunned me shortly after. I was finally at brave 2 today but got set back to brave 1 borderline guardian 3. I'm not the best, but certainly not the worst. It sucks to get punished due to the actions of your team. Even when I stop backpacking and do all I can to help my team succeed, their illogical decisions prevent any form of victory. I got a migraine from all the frustration and I decided it just isn't worth it anymore. I don't care how good Luna and Forgotten are. It's not worth it. I don't want to waste my life in comp to get it. Not happening.

If someone plays something that is not fun, why do they keep playing? If I play something and continuously get dumped on, would I get bored? Yes. Would I keep playing? No. I am confused and don't understand some people's constant struggle with common sense. You are your own worst enemy. Just stop playing.

Now imagine being 14 points off reaching fabled and having a team ddos you.

[quote]Why are points deducted if you lose?[/quote] Because it's supposed to be a skill based ranking system Punishing beyond reasonable? It gives you more points for a win than you lose for a loss, points for win streaks, and bonus points every week for playing three games. That's actually very, very generous.

countdown is just the best mode for comp, since you can win pretty easily with communication and strategy. those who loves control in comp are just solo players.

Team of randoms and someone leaves? - Remaining players on that side should be protected and not lose points for a loss. 4 stack and someone leaves that 4 stack fireteam? - They should still lose points. Stops teams abusing this protection. 2 people in a fireteam with 2 randoms and one of the fire team players leave? - The remaining fireteam member doesn’t get loss protection, but the two randoms do. There, just fixed that problem. I can’t believe after all this time they’ve still done nothing to try and stop stacks matching with solos. I can only guess the game’s Comp population is just too low (because it has so many problems). There should be sub rank protection. While you should be able to move up and down within a sub rank, such as Brave 2, once you reach Brave 3, you should stay there. While you can win to get towards Heroic 1, you should still be able to go back to the start of Brave 3 due to losses, but once to hit Heroic 1, you are locked there and can’t drop below it. That would be a massive quality of life improvement for Comp.

Because you win or lose as a team. This game is not meant for solo players. Give in to Bungies team fetish or move on to other games.