You know, Luna's owners will still stomp you even without Luna.

Maybe the should just add a game mode for shit players. That people with a certian kda cant get into.

Don’t worry - it’s all about to change . 180 handcannons will be the last of your worries in a few weeks.

Says there are many ways of fixing the two guns. Provides none of them. You will never improve if you don't play with players that are better than you. Your stats are not average. They are bad. This means that you (yes YOU) are a bad crucible player. Not everyone can win. Not everything is a participation trophy. Player more difficult people. And get better. I'm not trying to be rude. It's just realistic.

agreed, i have it and going against someone who doesn’t isn’t even a challenge most of the time, i think they could maybe add more guns similar to it that have fast TTKs but knowing bungo they won’t

You kids crying nerf are the reason vanilla D2 happened. You do realise that if they nerf Luna/NF the top tier players are just going to switch to the next meta weapons and dump all over your face with those? There will always be a meta and you will always lose if you think guns win games.

They screwed up when they created a 180 handcannon that can 3-tap without needing Rampage/Kill Clip. Anyone who says otherwise is being willfully ignorant. BUT with that being said, I have noticed alot of users spam fire LH/NF and a good strafe/explosive payload can win you your engagements. Its probably gonna be the users who earned it legitimately who are gonna mop the floor with you.

Ok so i own lunas howl. In 1 week i got 1100 kills in crucible the gun is alot of fun. Was semi hard to obtain Mostly due to time we started grinding for it like nov 12 to find out that we have 15 days. Its very easy to use(within its range) and i definitely have an advantage against anyone who doesn't. I'm a decent pvp player not the best not the worst. I do feel that Bungie is already way to far down the path of making the best players in the game absolutely unbeatable with the weapons that only they can earn and in turn recover accounts and gatekeep and monetize the comp playlist. The system is impossible for the community to have a fair match. If i play with my comp teammates in quickplay we are going to stomp out any team that does not have 3-4 lunas. Yes everyone has access to the comp playlist. Not everyone has access $200-$500 to pay for a carry or is friends with top 500 players that can carry them like for example Datto.(no offense to Datto) I love the idea of pinnacle weapons but in practice they are going to eventually going to make every non sweaty crucible player quit the crucible and maybe even the game. I don't have a solution i just know we have a problem. Cause currently we armed the MMA champions with spiked gloves to fight toddlers with water pistols. They need to give the avg player a path to obtain weapons that can compete with Not Forgotten(which i swear 90% including all the streamers who are trash just got carried to) and Lunas howl. They don't have to be LH/NF or even have magnificent howl but something that they can use that is equally as good so they have a fighting chance.

Easy fix for this problem. Bring back SBMM. Dont know why it was ever removed... Must have been a streamer problem of going against other streamers. Or paid carries vs paid carries.

Sorry to burst your bubble but your 0.89 K/D doesn't make you "average" it makes you bad. People like you will cry no matter what kills you, it's your nature. You simply lack the skill to compete and don't understand that it's not the "weapons" killing you, it's your bad decision making, poor aim, poor map awareness, poor reflexes....ect. Doesn't matter if I use my Luna's Howl or not, I do just as well without it as I do with it. You people always try to latch onto whatever you THINK the problem is without addressing what the problem REALLY is. Namely YOU. Work on improving what I mentioned above before you start crying about everything else.

I feel like I always have to teach players a lesson on forums. Destiny 2 does NOT have dedicated servers. It’s a peer-to-peer multiplayer game. The game decides who’s host. If your host is across the globe, good luck getting your shots to register. The problem with SBMM with no dedicated servers is that it will prioritize skill over connection. Ever played a college student from Albania on a 10 mbps WiFi connection? Also, you’ll never improve if you don’t play better players.

They nerfed the enjoyment out of the ep shotty for the pve players. Seems only right they should take the fun out of Luna for the PvP players. Just so you know, I'm against nerfs of any kind. Buffs are progressive. We can't progress this game positively if they nerf anything remotely fun!

Smugglers word with rangefinder beats a Luna's and shotties at short to mid range. They aren't going to nerf a pinnacle weapon