(real talk) This crap is getting old. Why in the world would they release D2 like it did... I mean this enviorment is a carbon coppy of the 2014 D1 release...and they said a lot of the same stuff about their faults then too... If you have to apologize for your short comings year after year maybe instead you should quit being game devs and go work for Walmart. At least then it's expected when you mess something up.

All I gotta say is fuuucck bungie d2 has to be the biggest disappointment of 2017 for me Come and get me ninjas I don't give a shit anymore And Fuuucck luke smith you ruined destiny with your stupid ideas that only you thought were great

Most of all stop catering to the casual. Make an awesome game first then they won’t be casual. Period. Always Have a hard mode and easy mode. The Gaul fight was so weak compared to the gravity of what he did and how awesome of a character he was. The old weapon system needs to return. It’s more exciting. Two snipers having a snipe off. 1v3 big plays. And most of all being able to defend urself when another has power ammo and not being killed because your helpless without. The legend himself has a good video about it. It’s all true. Twitch is suffering because of it. Increase the skill gap. Warlock is unplayable to me without blink because the glide is terrible. Movement needs to return to destiny 1 styles except for the Titan, the momentum and speed from the skate was to much. Random rolls should return. Unless masterclass is good. Strike specific loot. Gear re skins needs to stop. Random rolls on gear. About a 50 second grenade recharge. 40 sec max with two mods. I’ve always been a advocate of dropping special ammo. Random intervals on map. A move over pickup and not a sit at the box and hold a button to acquire. Also being Able to recover a enemy’s ammo after death. Creates map movement. Instant grenade charges on map. Move over them to charge. At random intervals in random locations.

I figure I should express my thoughts since I've been playing since early D1 and have stopped playing D2 almost completely. I would consider myself somewhere between hardcore and casual. I've completed all the high end / end game activities for the most part, but am not the top tier of anything or anyone. I hope that something greater comes out of this, for the Destiny community's sake, and for Bungie's (In that order). The reason people are so upset about D2 is because we love Destiny, or loved it, for some. I have read your blog post, here is my response. This is probably somewhat disjointed, and I'm honestly not sure how far I'm going to get before I get too angry or just keep thinking that no one is going to read this and I'm wasting my time. (EDIT - I've wasted too much time writing this. Here's my semi-coherent post.) If you sense disrespect in my words, it is because you (Bungie) does not deserve any respect at this point. You are being treated with the same respect you give to your customers. I realize how difficult it must be to be berated with hate mail / posts and people calling the work you have been doing for years trash. But unfortunately, you have no one else to blame but yourselves. You either don't communicate with your customers, or as we found out recently, you lie to us. Then, your fix is (or fixes are) complete garbage. Bungie needs to do some firing and hiring of new blood. You need people that think completely different than the people you have right now. I realize that you are trying to make money, as that is the ultimate goal. Do you realize that after what you have done to your own franchise, none of us are going to pre-order or possibly not even buy your next game? Let alone pre-purchasing expansions or special editions, etc... It doesn't matter if it's D3 or a new IP. Your reputation is gone. You have years of work to do, and you're going to have to completely overhaul your game (and attitude) and give stuff away (DLC or maps or something) to even have a chance to somewhat repair your reputation. You don't have the guts to just admit you are wrong. Your arrogance is disgraceful. You have been on your soap box trying desperately to convince everyone that you are right, and we'll enjoy what you've created / changed / done. Some part of you must know at this point how sorely wrong you are. If you only had it in you to admit it. It would go a long way for many people. It is time you realized that fixing a problem doesn't always mean going complete reversal or to the opposite extreme. You also need to realize that removing things from your game is neither an improvement nor an upgrade. How someone thought removing custom games or selecting the PvP game type was a good idea is beyond me. Anyone that thought that was a good idea clearly doesn't deserve a job. I also remember a video as D2 was coming out where 2 Bungie employees were explaining why you changed sub-classes from having choice in creating builds to the current method of have only 2 cookie-cut selections. In different words, one of your employees said that your customers were too stupid to make good build decisions themselves. God forbid they ask their friends, Google it, look on Reddit, look on the Bungie forums, or look at other players builds in-game. You could at least have default builds and then custom builds for those of us that are smarter than that moron in your video and can actually make decisions for ourselves. By doing this, you have also removed the ability to make odd builds that are only effective in specific situations. That was fun and challenging in the right circumstances. I am a titan at heart, and at first liked the subtle hunter nerfs in D1, or at least poked fun at my hunter friends. But at this point, you just hate one of the classes you created. Please realize you can push people to play other classes / sub-classes by making others better. You don't have to kill abilities / skills / sub-classes and subtract until people just don't want to play them anymore. TITAN CLAN!!!!!!! PvP is garbage as is. Between the 4v4, the maps, the spawning, weapon selection, the low TtK, and the team shooting, you have decided to engineer a completely different PvP experience, my guess is to make people that suck at PvP feel good. You simultaneously lowered the maximum skill bar, and raised the minimum skill bar, making most everyone feel mediocre. My KDR is usually around 1.1 to 1.3, so I am no superstar, but I'm usually happy if I go positive. Every now and then I'd have a great game. That happens so much less now. I have friends and a brother that are much better at shooters (and Destiny) than I am. Most of them have KDRs near mine now (or lower). Great players aren't able to do great anymore, or at least much less so. You removed kills from the game because snowflakes would much rather see that they got 4 defeats than 1 kill and 3 assists. This is life. Pandering to those lowest common denominators is only going to push skilled and dedicated players to other games. Once that happens, the casuals are going to follow. You're going to try to implement ranked PvP before you even discuss fixing PvP? What is wrong with you? Are you going to show kills in ranked PvP, or is that too harsh for all the little snowflakes even in a ranked match? [u][b]Some Quick Notes[/b][/u] Remove 4v4 Crucible, Bring back 3v3 and 6v6 Crucible Bring back Match Type Selection (Fire whoever removed this.) Bring back Custom Games (Fire whoever removed this.) Bring back difficult to obtain / rare loot from strikes / raids / Trails. (Not everyone should have every piece of armor or weaponry.) Make exotics feel exotic again. (And remove your newly added exotic exchange so everyone doesn't have everything available within a few weeks.) Bring back random gun rolls, or at least one random perk, or maybe 3-5 set rolls per weapon. (There is no excitement when looting anymore at all.) Heavy weapons and ammo needs to be tweaked. Gun balance and variety. (There are like 4 guns used is PvP.) Match high skilled players against each other. (Not exclusively, but make carries much more difficult. People need to work for their own rewards.) Increase vault space (Greatly). Balance Grenades / Class Abilities. Make Mobility & Resilience matter. (More so.) Remove one use shaders. When you change something in game, explain why you changed it. And do not lie, or be politicians about it. Be honest. I know it is difficult, but if you don't, Bungie is over. We're done with your bullshit. I could just keep going. But it's just not worth my time. I honestly hope Bungie proves me, and most of these posters wrong. I loved D1, but D2 is just soulless. I know D1 vanilla wasn't the best, but it's like you took what you learned from D1 and it's expansions and threw it all out the window to start over with a similar product built for the masses. Lastly, spend less on the production of your commercials, or at very least with the frequency you play them. You need to target your audience, not throw 400 darts at a dartboard and exclaim, "Bullseye!" because one of those darts hit your target. Some of that money could have been spent on development, game testers (THAT YOU LISTEN TO), or maybe a legitimate community presence. Bungie needs to be forced to do the Cersei Lannister walk of shame. Shame on Bungie

Destiny 2 is not fun. I don’t care what you do at this point because I’m out. Peace

Plz read this and try and get bungies attention https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/239467720/0/0

I've been playing since day 1 of d1 and to be honest, right now I'd really just rather play D1. I don't understand why you took so much away that was working, and fun, from that game to give us this. I don't even play anymore even though I am buying the dlc, to try btw, but I don't expect it to pull me back in. There is ZERO reason to farm anything in this game. No activities to complete weekly, besides raid, which I haven't done yet because, why? I love the idea of destiny 2, the reason of destiny 2, but that's where the creativity and effort to bring us something BETTER than D1 stops. All weapons should have reasons to obtain them, eg different perks or way to change them......Why make each one the same? Also reskinned weapons and exotics from D1? Come on with all the talented people there we should have not had to worry about the weapon/armor systems in D2. Please at least regress back to D1 style in that regard. Also public events are fun and all and are supposed to be just something that happens while out patrolling. It feels like D2s main focus. To much emphasis on it, I feel. Add some more activities like archon forge and PoE. Give us reasons to play every week. Right now nothing is warranting me to come back and play after reset. Raid lairs sound like we didn't feel like making new content but gotta give them something. I'll give it a shot but that statement is probably right. I just feel like this game could have been all D1 became and more with no ceiling on improvements and new content that people couldn't wait for like TTK. But it's like you started with D1 day 1 vision only that was better than this. Please fix your game. A sequel is supposed to be better by a long shot than its predecessor. There is still time and a community hoping you get it together and give us the game that will amazingly replayable and have us all wondering what's next hoping for this and that. Did you know my whole clan has quit. Not coming back.!! Now I have to find another group of people start new if I even do it. I've been playing with those guys in my clan since day 1 also. I don't know what to even say to add besides the things mentioned above because I'm not a programmer. Those things were there last game so thought they could be implemented. Just really need to fix the State of Destiny. Or I, for one, won't be investing in the game further.

Polish a Terd it's still shit unfortunately. I am literally more broken hearted from the state of D2 and how it turned out then I have ever been about a game before. It's sad D1 was all I played for the entire life span until D2 dropped. Now I haven't ran a nightfall in weeks never even attempted the last Iron Banner. Sad what this game has become.