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Edited by ScientificBEST: 2/22/2016 12:01:03 AM
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I was wrong. Special ammo limit was a TERRIBLE idea.

When Bungie first announced that players would no longer be spawning into 3v3 matches with special ammo, I was actually kind of excited about that. I'm a mediocre sniper at best, so I was happy to hear the game might be tilted slightly in my favor. [b]But after playing Trials for a couple of weeks, I hate it.[/b] Honestly, it's not so bad in Skirmish or Salvage. People tend to use primary weapons more often in those game modes anyway. But in Trials, your life is so much more valuable, so you will do anything to get an edge to make your opponent die first. There is no respawn to help you regroup and adapt. It's cut throat, and I like that. But you need special weapons (and ammo) to compete. Right now the problem with Trials is twofold. (1) Limiting special ammo has turned Trials into a game of momentum. If you get slaughtered on the first round before you can pick up special, there is a good chance you may never have special ammo for the rest of the match. Before you could come back in the second round with a new strategy, now if you're down 0-1, you're worried about how you can possibly challenge their snipers now that they have special ammo and you don't. (2) There is too much variation in each round now. We have the weird outlier first round with no special, the second round where only one team might have special, with the heavy round soon after. By that point you may STILL not have any special ammo. But the real problem here is that there is too much variation between each round. It makes it very difficult for a losing team to adapt and regroup when each round will be very different from the previous one. If there is no repetition or even playing field with each round, it's simply too chaotic. Bungie limited special ammo in order to help balance the game. Elimination and Trials are so unbalanced right now it's ridiculous... [Edit] I want to add that this whole problem could probably be avoided if all primaries were significantly buffed relative to special weapons. As it stands, primaries have received a net nerf since day 1, and now they are so weak that special weapons are the only good option for competitive play. Also, I'm not complaining because I'm getting wrecked in Trials. I AM definitely getting wrecked most of the time, but that's not my issue. I'm complaining because Bungie failed to fix the problem they originally set out to fix: the primacy of special weapons in 3v3 matches.

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  • It's sad that you need special. If they didn't nerf every primary weapon class the dog shit, then it wouldn't be such a big deal. The sole fact that specials are such a necessity is stupid.

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    • So basically you can't really play without special ammo and are terrible at coming up with a strategy and thinking on your feet?

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      • They just need to get rid of special in Trials period.

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        • I have ammo every round, I never run out. No land Beyond and a Sidearm. Nlb is just OP and sidearms are guaranteed ammo every first and second round.

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        • This is what happens when you complain about everything.

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          • Maybe each round wipes your special, and crates never spawn, but ammo slowly regenerates at set minutes? Basically turn every special weapon I not a very slow icebreaker, giving bungee 100% control over ammo pacing and removing the other teams ability to starve you?

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          • I have yet to play a trials ticket without people cheesing special ammo on a consistent basis. Considering how rampant these cheeses are its pretty unfair to say the change to special ammo is the cause of unbalanced gameplay. On the rare occasions where I play teams who don't do this the matches themselves are better. In the current state of Trials of Osiris you have people using snipers without ever picking up a special ammo crate, IMO that is the unbalance you are referring to.

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          • This system is better i hate the snipe fest that was going on for a year and a half and now its enjoyable

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            • So your saying your too stupid to be able to adjust your tactics? Know they got special then adjust, don't approach, either find special or flank or pinch or well a lot. Combat is not static, it flows like water.

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            • I think the system is awesome. Instead of playing the waiting game, where everybody is camping at their side of the map sniping, the game dynamics have totally changed in favor of medium to shorter range weapons. With the exception of the few exploits as well as the fact that collected ammo carries over to the next round...the new mode actually allows me to play. I am a horrible sniper, terrible with shotguns and rely predominantly on my primary weapons. This gives me every advantage I can possibly get at my skill level to actually contribute. For me the game has consistently improved to the point where I now can perform on par with the people who used to solely rely on hard scoping or camping with their shotties. And I am betting I am far from the only one. The more versatile players I play with have no problems adapting. It is purely the snipers and those sporting secondaries as a primary that seem to be completely thrown of their game. The matches have become more interesting. And it favors versatility as well as adaptability. Overall I am very positive about this. And I have never felt this amount of fairness when being obliterated. A few things which should be adjusted are mentioned above. * In ToO no weapon should carry over their ammo to another weapon...ammo regeneration is all fine and dandy...but it should stick to that specific weapon only. * A possible fix for exploits could be to pause ammo regen until special spawns to prevent a META being forced. * Any special ammo should NEVER carry over to the next round.

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              • use icebreaker first round swap to preferred special next you will spawn with maximum ammo assuming you had 6 icebreaker shots

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                • Primary weapons like no land beyond if you can use it. Alternatively, use icebreaker or invective. If you're a decent shot, you only need the 1 bullet to get a head shot and then your 1 player up. Other 2 rush. If your team is half decent you should be able to do without special. It can be irritating for sure but you need to be able to come up with ways to counter it.

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                  • https://youtu.be/V9iA7lhM-v0 go check out this video and subscribe

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                    • First game I played where your secondary is more powerful than primary lol

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                      • If it's that big of a deal use a sidearm and no land. Congrats you have a baby tlw yard stare combo. Or just use a sidearm first round then switch on round 2. Easy

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                        • 9-0 today Team came back 4-0 with no special and they had an icebreaker on the first round The POWER OF PRIMARIES

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                          • also they will have to rework ice breaker cause yeah no

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                          • *uses sidearm

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