When Bungie first announced that players would no longer be spawning into 3v3 matches with special ammo, I was actually kind of excited about that. I'm a mediocre sniper at best, so I was happy to hear the game might be tilted slightly in my favor.
[b]But after playing Trials for a couple of weeks, I hate it.[/b]
Honestly, it's not so bad in Skirmish or Salvage. People tend to use primary weapons more often in those game modes anyway. But in Trials, your life is so much more valuable, so you will do anything to get an edge to make your opponent die first. There is no respawn to help you regroup and adapt. It's cut throat, and I like that. But you need special weapons (and ammo) to compete.
Right now the problem with Trials is twofold.
(1) Limiting special ammo has turned Trials into a game of momentum. If you get slaughtered on the first round before you can pick up special, there is a good chance you may never have special ammo for the rest of the match. Before you could come back in the second round with a new strategy, now if you're down 0-1, you're worried about how you can possibly challenge their snipers now that they have special ammo and you don't.
(2) There is too much variation in each round now. We have the weird outlier first round with no special, the second round where only one team might have special, with the heavy round soon after. By that point you may STILL not have any special ammo. But the real problem here is that there is too much variation between each round. It makes it very difficult for a losing team to adapt and regroup when each round will be very different from the previous one. If there is no repetition or even playing field with each round, it's simply too chaotic.
Bungie limited special ammo in order to help balance the game. Elimination and Trials are so unbalanced right now it's ridiculous...
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I want to add that this whole problem could probably be avoided if all primaries were significantly buffed relative to special weapons. As it stands, primaries have received a net nerf since day 1, and now they are so weak that special weapons are the only good option for competitive play.
Also, I'm not complaining because I'm getting wrecked in Trials. I AM definitely getting wrecked most of the time, but that's not my issue. I'm complaining because Bungie failed to fix the problem they originally set out to fix: the primacy of special weapons in 3v3 matches.
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2 RepliesIt was good idea I'll give bungie that but the games I've seen my friend play and the ones I've played on his account are filled with people rushing you not even trying to kill you just move you so they can get the special ammo don't get me wrong that's a good strat to get the upper hand but really though they removed special ammo so we can stop depending on them but each game the other team always stayed by the special or made sure they get it before the round was over.
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Inferno elimination anyone?
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2 RepliesSh was fine before but bungie listens to whiners.
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Edited by iMoto Bro: 2/21/2016 11:10:24 PMNobody is stopping you from using a sidearm for the first round or 2. They need a damage buff in PvP & PvE but at least you've always got ammo. It's better than nothing.
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There's also the ice breaker issue. I understand Invective since they brought it into y2, but I see a ton ppl using Ice Breaker. How about getting good and beating the other team for the special? There's a thought! Too much emphasis on special weapons imo
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Stupid that it doesn't apply to sidearms
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Good summation of the special ammo changes.
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1 ReplyThe real problem is wiping the enemy team before special spawns
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Sh was fine before but bungie listens to whiners.
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I find that most teams on the first round sit at spawn and wait for special anyway. Its so annoying..
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Just kill everyone before the special has a chance to spawn. Boom, problem solved.
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They just had to make it so that each round you start off at 0 but that made too much sense for bungie
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Crimson doubles started with me equiping a side arm for round one then swithing to a shotgun in round two the patch was a joke. Either only have it drop once per match or patch the weapons so ammo is specific to the type with exotics like ice breaker and invective as unique so you cant transfer ammo between exotics and normal types.
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I told you so ... I told youuuuu so ... I muther-blam!-in told you sooooooooo...
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1 ReplyALL Bungie has to do is give you 2 clips worth of Special amomo and that's all you can get for the rest of the round.
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Ice breaker or side arms and invective solve that problem then switch between rounds and u have ammo on your 1k stare
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6 RepliesSo you hate a fix that's been need to prevent a snipers nerf?
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1 ReplySpecial should just disappear after every round. No carry overs just like heavy.
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1 ReplySo back to trials of sniping? Hell no. If you get rushed and loss then GG vise versus on the other end
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Edited by elchapo203: 2/21/2016 8:22:02 PMAnd the idiots who said " haha u special ammo scrubs are gunna get wrecked now" still didn't go flawless..the ones who cry nerf just constantly ruin this game
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1 ReplyMabye so that you start with two mags but there isn't any special crates and ice breaker can get 8 shots but after it stops regenerating ammo. Invective is the same so it only regenerates once.
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Be careful of what you ask for....
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I love it. Nothing better than seeing the other team camping the same special ammo crate because they don't know how to use a weapon that doesn't kill in one shot... Now they just need to get rid of heavy round.
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3 RepliesIt's what happens when Bungie listens to the 'community' and gives exactly what was asked for. There were cries of nerf special ammo so many timed. Bungie would have been aware of how things would turn out but I think they did it as an example of how the 'community' isn't as smart as it believes and doesn't actually know everything.
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Yep. Limiting special ammo was a terrible idea! All anyone does is switch to icebreaker and get more ammo than a special ammo crate can give on round 2. I'm so sick of switching to icebreaker it's not even funny. I hate ice breaker in crucible...and im forced to use it in trials just to keep up with all the exploiters... Half the teams I've played with just suicide run to the special crates because special ammo is so limited. I cannot believe this community thought the special limit was a good idea!
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1 Reply.42 and .56 trials KDs...... I think I found the problem