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10/25/2015 9:07:53 AM
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Just like the Crota 'cheese' did? It's not removing them, they're still there. They are just being managed differently. Like killing the yellow bar acolytes turns the others into mini ogres, killing them last isn't a cheese, it's managing the mechanics.
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  • To skips one of the mechanics is a cheese I would say, or at least it's not legit if you prefer. I would patch it if I were Bungie. Ok it's not a very big cheese like unplugging the Ethernet cable or pushing Atheon, and finishing the fight in 2 minutes. But still. Now people will even forget that red Knights spawn to destroy the black balls and will forget about the yellow knight.

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  • To bad your opinion doesn't matter here.

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  • [quote]Just like the Crota 'cheese' did? It's not removing them, they're still there. They are just being managed differently. Like killing the yellow bar acolytes turns the others into mini ogres, killing them last isn't a cheese, it's managing the mechanics.[/quote] Wait, so you're telling me keeping Crota kneeled forever isn't a cheese. God damn you're dumb

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  • He's referring to how middle strategy for Crota was called a cheese in a similar fashion this new strategy is. I don't understand why people are getting so Butthurt over this

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  • [quote]He's referring to how middle strategy for Crota was called a cheese in a similar fashion this new strategy is. I don't understand why people are getting so Butthurt over this[/quote] Thanks, I'm so glad you came onto a post made hours ago to say the same thing multiple others have said. You are helping save society by adding zero to anything.

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  • Happy to help :)

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  • Standing on the ledge and the infinite kneel are way different, if you don't see that then that is just sad.

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  • That's not what he said, so, God damn you're dumb

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  • [quote]That's not what he said, so, God damn you're dumb[/quote] Well the only cheese on crota was pulling the plug. So that has to be the only thing he is referencing.

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  • No. Standing on the platform was cheese. You have altered the mechanics. Most adds can't kill you, blue knight can't get to you, Crota can't shoot or slam you, therefore you have altered the mechanics of the whole fight. By your own definition, the end raid boss' mechanics are altered. It is cheese. Stop trying to say it isn't when your own definition says it is.

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  • And copying everyone's text that you're replying to is redundant btw lol

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  • [quote]And copying everyone's text that you're replying to is redundant btw lol[/quote] It's to keep track of who is being replied to, that way if I reply to you and say you should realize it helps to keep track people will know it's not meant for them if they were also arguing. When there are a lot of comments it is hard to keep track of and quotes help tidy it up a bit.

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  • Dude you need to get outta here, you're making yourself look stupid...

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  • [quote]Dude you need to get outta here, you're making yourself look stupid...[/quote] Ok, put it this way, of all the posts of mine you reply to you reply to the one where I explain that quoting allows me to keep track of what I've said. I've made a lot of comments over the past few hours on the topic and quoting helps me keep track. You look stupid by jumping in on an argument, adding nothing and calling someone stupid

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  • This whole sub thread is replies to the guy who was talking about standing on the window ledge for crota.....

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  • Edited by Potent Armpit: 10/25/2015 9:23:45 AM
    I'm talking about the middle platform strat. Of course the kneel was a cheese. It was also fixed because it was a cheese. Edit - and let's keep it polite, no need to start calling each other names. It diminishes your argument.

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  • [quote]I'm talking about the middle platform strat. Of course the kneel was a cheese. It was also fixed because it was a cheese. Edit - and let's keep it polite, no need to start calling each other names. It diminishes your argument.[/quote] That was never a cheese, no matter how much people want to say it is

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  • You're right, it wasn't a cheese and neither is this. No one is forcing you to do it and it's not altering your experience any. But blocking those boomers and keeping a titan in a bubble to distract them is the same as managing when you kill the ogres. It's a viable strategy, but you don't have to do it. If you wanna do it long way round, then do that.

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  • [quote]You're right, it wasn't a cheese and neither is this. No one is forcing you to do it and it's not altering your experience any. But blocking those boomers and keeping a titan in a bubble to distract them is the same as managing when you kill the ogres. It's a viable strategy, but you don't have to do it. If you wanna do it long way round, then do that.[/quote] Actually that's where you're wrong. With this strategy lfg will be flooded with people only doing this, and anyone without a group will be forced to do it. It also isn't the same as managing when to kill the ogres because they should be killed immediately to prevent your team from dying on the plates.

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  • But they can't shoot you when you're on the central two plates. Hence how it works without cheating.

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  • [quote]But they can't shoot you when you're on the central two plates. Hence how it works without cheating.[/quote] No one said anything about cheating. And I'm talking about when the guys holding the plate for the relic runner are on them what happens when they die from not killing the ogres.

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  • They don't die, because they jump off and move. Cheese is a mild name for a cheat. Cheesiness and cheating essentially the same things. This is just another way to do it. If it gets patched then it wasn't meant to be done that way. If it doesn't then it's fine. It's pointless sweating it.

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  • [quote]They don't die, because they jump off and move. Cheese is a mild name for a cheat. Cheesiness and cheating essentially the same things. This is just another way to do it. If it gets patched then it wasn't meant to be done that way. If it doesn't then it's fine. It's pointless sweating it.[/quote] Ok, first off you don't understand when I'm talking about. Second cheesing does not equal cheating. Cheesing is altering mechanics to make a fight easier. The only point I was originally making was that this is probably gonna be patched and seen as a cheese.

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