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6/9/2013 5:24:57 PM
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attacking other players?

Does anyone know if we will be able to attack other players at any moment outside of the city or will we need to be in a ''matchmaking'' mode?
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  • Edited by Arsinek: 6/19/2013 12:08:39 AM
    It should be open world PVP but have ways so the carebears dont have to worry about being "ganked". Warhammer had the best formula, EVEs is also good too. So its not like it hasnt been done before, Bungie just has to put in the effort. Campaign: [i]The objective of a Campaign is to take over the zones and capital city of the opposite realm. Between the opposing zones in each tier, there is a unique battlefield. Initially, control of the battlefield is divided evenly between Order and Destruction, but as victory points are gained by each side through RvR gameplay, questing, and Public Quests, control of the battlefield shifts to the side with the greater share of those victory points. As your realm gains greater control over an individual battlefield, bonuses are granted to all players on your side within that tier. Earn enough victory points, and your realm will gain full control of that battlefront, and the tier within it. A percentage of victory points from Tier 1 spill over into Tier 2. Likewise, a percentage of victory points from Tier 2 spill over into Tier 3, and from Tier 3 into Tier 4, so your victory points gained in lower tiers increase your points in upper tiers. Even low level players in Tier 1 will ultimately be contributing to the overall war effort. Tier 4 is where each realm will struggle for the ultimate prize – capturing the capital city of an opposing army. Tier 4 is the final battlefront. To open a capital city to attack you will first have to capture the neutral zone in the center. Once you have enough victory points to control that zone, its scenarios will lock down, and scenarios in your enemy’s tier 4 zone will open up, allowing your realm to attack that zone. If your enemies then gain victories of their own they can push the front back to the neutral zone and potentially open up your own Tier 4 zone to attack. This makes Tier 4 a constant struggle for the battlefield. If you gain enough victory points to control the enemy’s Tier 4 zone, the enemy capital city itself will become open to attack, opening up a new range of scenarios inside that city's zone, detailing the attacks on the stronghold. If that attack is successful then the controlling realm will be able to (temporarily) conquer and ransack most of the enemy capital. Burning, looting and special NPC encounters are sure to follow. You will not be able to hold onto your enemy city indefinitely. Systems will be in place that will eventually wrest control of the city back to the rightful owners. When this happens, the campaign will begin again. Each racial paring has a different campaign going on at the same time, and do not effect each other. [/i]

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    • I'm going to use dark souls as a reference to activate PVP you have to be a human then you can be invaded at any time. Destiny should have something similar to activate PVP so that way people don't dive through a dungeon only to get shot in the head by someone at the end who nicks all the good stuff. PVP needs to be regulated because some people just don't want that to happen to them. So PVP should be in dedicated zones or activated by an item that basically scream. Come at me bro!! And if it goes that way there has to be a well what is it? Gesture from dark souls.

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      • This seems to be a recurring question for MMOs or, as here, MMO-like games that they don't want to call MMOs. To have open-world PvP or segment PvP into separate areas. Most MMOs have dealt with this by separating the two groups at sign-in - you want open world PvP, you go to a PvP shard; you don't, you go to a PvE shard. Given that Destiny is apparently planning an intricate matching system for placing players, isn't the best way to deal with the problem to have players indicate a preference and then match like-minded players together? I don't want to force PvP minded players to have to play in a PvE only environment, anymore than I assume they want me to be forced to play open-world PvP.

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        • It will probably notify you when your in a pvp public area. Open world pvp won't work because the cry babies who suck.

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          • Faction Wars

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            • They said that pvp will be 100% voluntary.

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              • I forgot to ask this question, Frontal: Do you, personally, want to kill other players within the story? This, of course, is different from multiplayer matchmaking (non-story) killing players.

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                • You couldn't attack players outside of the city even if you wanted to, it isn't an MMO where you see people everywhere. It will be you and your Fireteam. But you will see a couple of people in public events. But that's all.

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                  • Pls don't kill me. [i]FlameA24 was killed[/i] no

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                    • I kinda want it to be but that'd work oddly with the lore, seeing as humanity only has enough members of our species to fill a single city. It's a wonder we have enough people to maintain genetic diversity.

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                      • I hope that it'll be possible. Here's hopping that it'll be similar to the PVP in Lineage 2.

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                        • i doubt it, you would just be helping the aliens win

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                          • I hope there is a pvp open world mode.

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                            • An option to toggle PvP on or off at anytime, except when you are already engaged in combat, would be a good way to go.

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                              • There should be designate areas for pvp combat. If you can just kill people whenever and where ever in the wilderness new players would constantly get destroyed and not want to play the game. (Gears or war 1 & 2) With designated areas you know what you're getting yourself in to and respawning would make sense as you would respawn just outside of the combat area and get right back in the action, go about your business, or find another combat area.

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                                • If you are outside the seeing eyes of the city, then anything goes. But be weary, for the guardians seldom travel alone, and the few that do are either foolish and carrying a death wish, or are vicious and have much reason to walk a lone path. I think that should sum up the PvP experience. I wouldn't mind some Holo-room mumbo jumbo for more uniform/whacky custom games type stuff within' The City itself. I mean, the citizens need some sort of sport to keep 'em entertained, right? Guardian Shenanigans would be awesome.

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                                • We must stand united except within an arena of honor.

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                                  • I think you should be able to kill players at any time, but if you do a bounty will be placed on your head giving others incentive to hunt you down.

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                                    • I think i am going to round up a Bungie.net posse

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                                    • Open-World PvP is an awful idea. First off, it wouldn't make any sense; and secondly, trolls are bad enough as-is. I'd prefer they don't have the ability to kill me.

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                                      • No, new players would worry about be killed every 3 seconds and wouldnt be able to enjoy the game

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                                      • I hope so. Would like to unlock a badass sniper and just hang in the heigths somewhere, waiting for people to pass by.

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                                        • Bungie has said that PvP play will be strictly opt-in.

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                                          • I'm hoping for a wilderness/designated areas where pvp and pve both occur in the same location. To offset the increased risk of being attacked modify the probability of decent item drops, say normal chance of a rare weapon would be 0.01% but in the wilderness it could be 0.05%, then decent weapons from 3% to say 8%, and have a 1.5x gold increase. That way whilst you can be attacked, it's a risk/reward scenario.

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                                          • Sounds like it may be like Eve Online's "duel request". Anyone can fight anyone, but only with both parties consent. Doubt bungie wants to introduce "ganking" to consoles.

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                                          • Well I think that you won't be able to fight other guardians but there is a speculated faction wars mode where there are different factions of soldiers that can fight against each other so yes there is a matchmaking. ;)

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