Just trying to wrap my head around the theory that running 3x of these -10 light level capped activities, each of which can take 25-40 minutes to complete grants a single +2 pinnacle drop.
My personal feelings about these new experimental -5, -10 light level capped activities aside, this still feels like the rewards for time invested is all out of whack.
Preservation takes 15 minutes with a fireteam for a similiar +2 pinnacle drop. A full King' s Fall Raid takes 50 minutes for 5x pinnacle drops. Spire of the Watcher is roughly 50 minutes for 3x pinnacle drops. How on earth does roughly 90 minutes for a single drop make any sense at all?
Once I have the seasonal triumph for completing each legendary heist ONCE complete, I am never touching them again.
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The pinnacle system has been uneven for years. This is unfortunately just another miss of the mark.
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2 RepliesYeah I made a post yesterday after doing it. It took me 45 mins for 3 of them. After that I thought about how I did a Wellspring in 12 mins for a pinnacle, a legendary dares for a pinnacle in 12 mins, and a preservation in 10 mins for a pinnacle. How the hell does it make sense for 3 of these to only give a pinnacle? It should be 1 for a pinnacle and 3 for a guaranteed red border.
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1 ReplyEdited by Illuminary: 12/24/2022 4:50:01 PMTook my fireteam about 50 min to do all three which I can still agree is way too long for a pinnacle. Spire of the Watcher doesn't really take 50 min, you can do it in 30. Solo Seraph legend is also way too long without checkpoints for the pin. Yes I agree they are completely out of whack and worthless from a pin standpoint. But, if you do the pins right by week three you don't need to do them anyway. I accidentally got flawless legend but I'm not worrying about doing each of them.
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Its a hard balance to strike if everything is so easy it's boring as hell to play the game. Making things shorter and giving more loot is not very challenging for a lot of people. Content creators would fall asleep if everything was 10 min. I think you need a variety of short medium and long content. That way whatever mood your in for you got something to play. Bungie tosses you some easy loot and if you want more cause you can then your gonna need to work harder. Lots of weeks i only do a few cause im lazy. Other weeks i grind everything out.
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8 RepliesKings fall is 1 pinnacle and the rest powerful bud….
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Edited by WifeAggro_AFK: 12/26/2022 6:52:47 PMIf you’re taking more than 15 min to complete one- you need better teammates. I ran through Randos on LFG for a farm4x and all were under 13 min with our fastest at 11 and change. Could prob do it quicker with a full organized clan team That said- I agree a single pinnacle for 3 runs regardless of speed is a bit low.
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2 RepliesIt's not even a pinnacle. It's a power, unless they changed it.
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1 ReplyStill better than 3 games of gambit!
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7 Replies25-40mins damn. learn to play faster
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2 RepliesThen don't do it. There is so many other options including King's Fall.
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6 RepliesI just wished red frames would drop more often. 2 exo frame resets in, going for the 3rd, and all I have is the pattern for the LFR; standing at 0 to 1 out of 5 on all the others. Go figure this nonsense.
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2 RepliesIt wouldn’t be bad if it didn’t have the midifier of 10 levels below. What a slog. I can tell you that once I’m at base 1590, I’ll never run it again.
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1 ReplyIs doing legend heist the best way to get red borders to drop compared to normal? Or it doesnt matter?
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"Content"
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My legend heist battlegrounds took like 5-10 minutes longer than a base one. There is almost no difference in 5 and 10 below an activity.
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Agreed. Love the challenge but the rewards need to match the difficulty. That includes lost sectors, nightfalls and especially….especially raids. Those raid exotics should have guaranteed drops after the 1-3 run.
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IKR! Compared to how long it takes to run 3 crucible matches in say, scorched... 3 seems like chore
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Skill issue.
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At least Legend heist is a 6 player matchmade activity......
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The Idea that Bungie thinks that pushing players into increasingly harder activities and requiring more of them for less reward is going to attract and keep new players as well as encourage current players to stay is, laughable at best. I said a while ago and got laughed off the forums, there needs to be more ways for solo players to advance light level. I game in the mornings primarily as I work second shift, finding a fire team outside of playlists that find them for you is near impossible. No one is running the new raid at 8 am eastern time. I know it is a problem that affects very few players but it also means I take ALL season to get to max light level, 3 weeks in and I am 1581 with a couple 1582 and one 1583 piece. Tried the new mission on legendary, do not have the right gear to get it done. Some people absolutely hate the jumping falling bit. The puzzle solving is ok, but in this case there was way too much of it with no reward until the end. Essentially 3 boss fights with no loot for the first 2.
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[quote]Just trying to wrap my head around the theory that running 3x of these -10 light level capped activities, each of which can take 25-40 minutes to complete grants a single +2 pinnacle drop. My personal feelings about these new experimental -5, -10 light level capped activities aside, this still feels like the rewards for time invested is all out of whack. Preservation takes 15 minutes with a fireteam for a similiar +2 pinnacle drop. A full King' s Fall Raid takes 50 minutes for 5x pinnacle drops. Spire of the Watcher is roughly 50 minutes for 3x pinnacle drops. How on earth does roughly 90 minutes for a single drop make any sense at all? Once I have the seasonal triumph for completing each legendary heist ONCE complete, I am never touching them again.[/quote] I saw that 3 for a pin, I wouldn’t want to do 3 on normal for a pin, definitely not doing enough legendary for a pin bingle is a bit out of touch with reality on that
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I think the problem is that some players like to do everything in 1 day and then call it quits for the week. That's 3 legendary battlegrounds over the course of 7 days. I, for one, certainly don't have an issue with this. My problem has been being error coded the majority of the time and then booted from games just before the endings of activities.
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Comparatively, Master Ketchcrash only took about 15-20 minutes for a plus 2 pinnacle
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Exactly. I won't even bother lol I'm out.
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3 Repliesbut its a + 3 point drop pinnacle ( lol )
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3 RepliesWhy is it taking you 25 mins to do a battle ground lol But yes 3 is too much