They want people to play trials as that Playlist is on life support. They should have never brought it back since its clearly half baked.....

it had nothing to do with power creep. "Sunsetting" is only done so we can have content for next year.

Stop assuming Bungie is truthful.

This was a great write up and analysis 👍 and I agree with the points you made

They just want to make the meta of the game a rotating wheel. Some stuff goes away for a while but they’ll reintroduce it and buff up other stuff.

The point of sunsetting was to force people to re do what they did before so that Bungie did not have to make new loot. It is why strikes are recycled, d1 guns are back, wny there was such minimal original loot last season. I can't speak for this season cause i haven't had an interest in playing Destiny as primarily a pvp player. But Bungie clearly can't do even what it did under Activision. Maybe it lacks the resources but that's why we had sunsetting.

So they can get players to grind for the same weapons. That was the purpose of sunsetting all along. To have a revolving grind and loot pool with NO work on their end. We are talking about a developer who just told us that bringing back the cosmodrome was too much work.

Power creep happens every year regardless of weapon power. Well of Radiance was power creep. Stasis [i][b]IS[/b][/i] power creep. The hypocrisy of Sunsetting is hilarious.

I never bought into the reasoning that sunsetting had to do with pinnacle weapons. If it did, it was a terrible solution. They could have just sunset the pinnacles and been done with it, right? No, sunsetting was a limp smoke screen for turning the game into a F2P shadow of its former self. Doing less with less...

It's accurate. And you are entirely correct. For all the arguments of "we can't have pinnacles because [insert reason here]", reintroducing weapons with the exact same perks that were removed merely proves it was all horseshit all along. Out of all the things that Bungie have done, sunsetting is the most asinine. (edit: the power creep argument is also, quite demonstrably, balls for PvE - the claim that there needs to be balance went out with the introduction of Stasis, the new Titan exotic that deals more damage than Celestial Nighthawk and a rocket launcher perk that poops on all that which came before)

The new grenade launcher is pretty much mountaintop 2.0

I’ve said it before. Sunsetting was pointless in the sake of power creep. Before this, what power creep was there? What was the difference between Day 1 and Year 2 players? There was next to no difference in actual power just like now. They just want to control the meta. By forcing players to use flavors of the month, they can balance the game much easier but that also harms diversity among weapon types. So, they have A HC season, follow it up with a Scout Rifle season, and ect. Think Blizzard’s WoW balancing act. On top of this, they can control what content you play and feel justified in removing things they don’t want to continue to lessen workloads so they can put a bulk of their teams on other IPs. Another reason being they want to keep end-game populated, so they basically cut all other content and make it pointless to do for the player. In short, they want you playing what they want you to play because if players had choice, Nightfalls and Strikes would have much longer MM times.

[quote]If light.gg is accurate, then I have to ask, why bother sunsetting Redrix if you intended to put the perk that made it a pinnacle weapon, Desperado, on a weapon like Messenger? If I remember correctly, the reasons behind sunsetting were to reduce the loot pool, help prevent "power creep", switch up the meta a little so perk combinations like Rampage/ Outlaw wouldn't be as "necessary", and would allow you to "make weapons as strong as Recluse". Did I miss anything? Moving on, if light.gg is accurate/ this was intentional, I have to ask "why"? Redrix 2.0, except this one can not only have perks other than Outlaw, but can have something better like Rapid Hit instead. I'll be glad if this was intentional, I might finally try getting into Trials, but if you're doing this with Desperado, there's no reason not to do the same for any of the other pinnacle perks like Archer's Gambit, or combine Meganeura/ Dragonfly and put on Chain Reaction. But it just raises the question of why pinnacle weapons were sunsetted if you intended to add their perks into the pool and make upgraded versions of the weapons? God forbid we see Reversal of Fortune on another sniper, or Magnificent Howl on a long range hand cannon (especially 120s with everyone complaining about them), or Micromissile on another GL, the forums will be filled with more people complaining about OP weapons and how "exclusive" they are. Edit: If this is accurate, then this is proof that pinnacle weapons had nothing to do with sunsetting.[/quote] I love the unique guns. Give us every powerful gun so we can one shot or have the fast ttk lmao. Nah forreal tho i love the unique guns more for pve. I miss mountaintop or the recluse. Loaded question was a beast. I feel like finally we are getting weapons that are strong and dope. They need to retire outlaw/ kill clip or rampage. That stuff is boring now lol. This new gl is awesome. So fun to use. Thats the exciting stuff. They should of made all the old pinnacle exotics if they were that powerful. Wish i could use some of them. Hopefully we will have many options like them in the future.