Any nerd like him can name their clan mathclass and act like they’re intelligent. Engineering guys like me see right through his facade. He would get wrecked at math and PvP at the same time if he went in alone. His gf would also leave him for me.

i remember in D1 he and his top tier crew would make challenges for themselves like VoG no communication, or killing some bosses with only ricochet rounds (shot the floor first), or even all blue gear raids. I don't see why they can't do something like this again to challenge themselves and not make things harder for everyone else just so they can have a better time.

I mean, he isn’t wrong

Gotta agree with the fact he plays with other top players who play nothing but the game all the time. He gets everything done on the first day and it might be "easy" for him. Meanwhile, I haven't raided since Calus first came out.

As a alpha tier/pinnacle level/high ranking/professional gamer with impeccable gamestyle I fervently agree with Datto.[spoiler]BTDubbs I’m a wayfarer and D1 pre alpha vet [/spoiler]

It's funny how streamers never look at things like what you said and ignore other things like, not everyone has the top builds to use nor are they maxed out in power level. Yet, they are going to act like everything is easy when most of them sit on their ass all day anywhere from 10-20 a day blowing through the content with their tops players, and have the nerve to say "it easy"? Whether it's easy or not is not the problem here. The problem here is [b](literally Bungie.)[/b] They didn't learn a damn thing in 6 years. How the hell are you going to cater to the top players that say their content is too easy that can literally blow through Bungie content a hell off a lot faster than most and not screw over everyone else? I know, do the smart thing Bungie, and go back to how D1 raids were set up. You have 2 different mods that literally worked for the game. WoW! what a concept. You know, creating content that actually works for the game and stop fighting the player base as you have for the last 3 years creating things that don't work for the game, that you end up wasting a hell of a lot of our time and yours constantly changing things???

so if you wanted to respond to him directly, why would you post it here and not on his video? appears you merely wanted attention.....

[quote]This is my response to you directly: I do agree that the ads should have more lethality and intelligence.... but.... -You play on PC and have no recoil on weapons. Your SMG’s with warmind cell builds can shoot at the same distance as an auto rifle but with no recoil. -You play with the top of the top players -Try playing with “non-raiders” on LFG using an older gen console There’s the challenge you might be looking for https://youtu.be/r-ZcAo64vxI[/quote] Playing on pc isn't easy mode. Have u tried playing a game properly on pc? Probably not. Its takes alot of learning and practice. Datto is a -blam!- that lives in destiny. Anyone who over plays this game can do it blind folded.

So I have a little thought on this My raid group that I’ve run with for years, we blow thru the raid, but each week we do clears with other clan members who aren’t as raidcentric as we are and it’s a struggle bus for them, what takes my group 38 minutes to get thru takes us around 1-2 hours depending how many new people we are taking thru Prestige mode used to be a thing and back in the day it was a pita but fun. I’d like to see something similar come back for the hardcore raiders. I also agree that people who play this game as a job with the best players around them get bored easily. There’s no way bungie can make enough content to keep those guys busy. I play every day after I get home from work and I have tons of stuff to do. So there is a huge disconnect between some streamers and us.

100% agree with the OP. I raid with some top tier guys as well, on console, and it is easy, FOR US, we, unlike streamers, actually play with the community at large, carries guided etc, and nothing has ruined this game more over the years than streamer input. Every change directly attributed to streamers has made the game worse, sometimes a little sometimes massively. They certainly didn't ruin it as much as when activision was getting mixed into content, nor when they took over from activision and actually made everything related to renting the game, renting your gear, renting the content, but it is really what we call in my business a "feedback loop." You have a group of people with bad ideas to begin with steering those bad ideas by self interested people who have no concept of what it is to be 90% of the destiny community as they get paid to play 24/7 365. There are a few streamers i do very much enjoy, they are buddies with streamers i loathe for one reason or another. It is a fraternity like anything so if you aren't a toxic ass clown they all find ways to at least get along. Nothing was better for this game as a whole than a non streamer team taking world's first, sucks that instead it was partially a try hard time trial/known hack exploit group, but still even that was better than bungie and the streamer community self fellating each other. The only way to explain how bungie taking cues from streamers is horrible for the game is to look at the mountain of mistakes and missteps that were well known to be luke smith pet projects (post activision) that the dev team at large knew were mistakes and missteps but were ignored and overruled time and again. The point being trying to shoe horn ideas that work in other style games into this style of game while trying to maximize monetization at the expense of content, smooth playability, play testing, server testing...hell they can't even hire someone to play the games on consoles before launching updates and patches. They just play on pc and push updates with terrible console porting every single year going on almost a decade. So, while i agree the raids are easy, with good teams, that is a GOOD THING. There should be challenge and prestige modes that offer sweaty pve folks a way to get their rocks off.

I play using controller on pc (in pvp). And if no recoil made that much of a difference I’d be getting shat on in elim. DSC has been the easiest raid. Garden wasn’t too bad either. D1 raids were much harder. And there was a hard mode to all raids iirc.

He’s still butthurt that he missed day 1 last wish, I have no remorse for that emo wack job

24:02. Didn’t seem to easy then....

If they’re too easy why didn’t he get world’s first? Also, someone posted the stats of this raid and the percentage of first day completions was similar to one of the raids now removed (Argos was the boss). It’s on the easier end of the spectrum but within normal for destiny. Higher numbers completed DSC but that’s because way higher numbers tried it. The number of completions as a percentage of those who tried it is pretty normal.

Datto also thinks having weapons with rampage and a reload perk is bad for the game. I think his influence is bad for the game. Go play wow if that is what you want

I wish I could stay home all day and play games On same note as a chef I find it easy to cater a party for 250 people. If you do it 24 7 off course it gets easy.

I told my friend as soon as I saw the title of the video that I could already see the people on the forum having a field day and clearly I wasn't wrong. Half the people in the thread I can tell read the title and didnt even watch the video before typing up an insult. The pure hatred towards streamers just for the sake of hating streamers on this forum is so, so cringe. And it's not even all streamers, it's selective. Darkside royalty lore joker or aztecross make a video saying the exact same things as Datto and you freaks are foaming at the mouths with your upvotes. And no, do not tell me "ThE fOrUm RePrEsEnTs MaNy OpInIoNs" scroll through this thread and tell me that I am wrong for generalizing and seeing it as hive mind. It's literally an echo chamber of the same insults every single time he makes a video.