I've given up on the raids, every time I try and join one there are people in the fireteam that just treat you like shit and have no problem doing so. I have joined many fireteams and all I get is whoever is leading they get usually rude and condescending so I really don't need that shit in my life. So yeah, I won't be farming any raids just to get a triumph, obviously, Moments of Triumph is focused more on the raids, what about the people that don't raid?, not very well thought of this MOT this year.

There are two sides to this story as I am occasionally one of those "not teaching" folks. I do have over 100 sherpas also, so it's not like I don't help the community. On the side of the "Raid Report checking" crew. 1. Players lie about their experience often. I've had tons of players say they've had a dozen clears when they have like one or have made it to final encounter and never finished it. If it's 2:30am and I'm looking for a 30 minute EOW clear, and someone lying to me makes it 60 minutes, then I'm out 30 minutes of sleep to a liar, an avoidable issue with RR. I RR people now. Too bad. Those players usually have to be retaught which takes a ton of time, which brings me to... 2. Sherpas take a LOT of time. I can do an eater of worlds casual run in under 30 minutes. Sherpas take literally twice as long assuming no wipes. The longer the raid, the higher that goes. My last Levi sherpa has 5 hours (2 sherpas and 3 inexperienced players + me, couldn't get Calus down). Sometimes we want to clear 5 or 6 raids in a couple hours and call it a night. 3. There is no moral or ethical prerogative to spend my finite time on this planet helping strangers learn a video game. I don't mean it in a cruel way, but it's the truth. I paid for the game, same as them, and just because I went through the process of learning these raids with 5 other nooblets doesn't mean I'm required by some unspoken law to spare other people that process by shouldering it myself. I have goals of my own. Sometimes I just want to do a 15 minute scourge or a 25 minute Levi. I am not a tool, I am a person. 4. 99% of the top raiders started out the same as everybody. It's called a rite of passage. You can look at the beginnings of most raiders with hundreds or thousands of clears and see red dots (incomplete or failed raids) all over the place. I failed 8 of my first 10 Leviathan raids. Welcome to the jungle. We like fun and games. 5. There are tons of toxic nooblets out there. I've had guys with 1 clear try to Dictate how I should be teaching my fireteam a raid I put together in LFG. There are PvP sweats who think hand cannons and blade barrage can do boss dps. Every time some know it all says they don't want to use wardcliff coil in a spire run, I die a little inside because I know it's gonna be a bad time. 6. Finally, I have about 100 sherpas under my belt. Do you have any idea how many times I've said the phrase "okay, first rule, do NOT step on the same plate as another person"? At an average of 90 minutes per sherpa, I've put up 9000 minutes (or about 150 hours) into teaching people raids. Every time I have somebody question what I tell them because "that's not what rick khakis said" or "my friend told me this". But now we're wrapping back to 5 again with the toxic nooblets. Point is, I've repeated myself a lot. A LOT. I can recite my leviathan and EOW sherpa explanations in my sleep. It gets old, especially when nobody thanks you for it. Now, don't get me wrong. I can sympathize. I would've loved to have been sherpa'd by top 1k players. However, that's just not how life works sometimes. I learned it by getting my friends together and figuring it out. Even my garden sherpa only had 15 clears and most of the rest of the fire team had less than 3. It took a couple hours. Such is life. You gotta remember what you're doing here. You play alone or with like 2 other people and you're casting a net into a community of 19 million players and expecting (neigh, demanding) that the top 2% respond. That's just a bad look no matter how you swing it. This is a social game. Join a clan, make some friends, do some raids. LFG is a tool to help find people. It is not a store to help you find tools. Real humans play this game and they're not just sitting around smoking bongs waiting for you to need them. Good luck guardian.

Welcome to Destiny 2, we are all a#sholes who hate each other because we have different opinions and belittle people who arent as good as others. Oh did i forget to mention that if you dont agree with the majority, you will get your a#s chewed out

I tell my wife "KWTD, or get kicked" before she comes to bed...... Needless to say she never joins my fireteam......

[quote]This community is better than that[/quote] Honestly, no it isn't. It has been going downhill for a while. The community doesn't care about where they were. They care where they are now individually. They don't want to teach. They don't want to remember they may not have had friends. They want to always remember the good times. People will say make a post. That doesn't guarantee anything. Just an attempt. It doesn't make you get a group together automatically. It doesn't guarantee making friends. I have actually lost more friends because of playing Destiny than made friends. If people have ever been on both sides of it, having friends and not having friends, I think you would see the community be more understanding. "Join a clan" is always a fun topic. Again. Joining a clan doesn't, again, guarantee anything. Being in a clan can make you feel just as alone as being solo.

No. Players aren't entitled to be taught things by those looking for fast, clean runs, especially on content that is literally years old. The reality is you shouldn't be trying to join those groups to begin with, they want efficient speedruns, not to sit there teaching. You want to run the raids? Make your own post or join those that arent asking for knowledgeable players, watch or read a guide beforehand if you cannot find a sherpa, if you cant take the 10 mins to watch that you have no business trying to run a likely hour plus long activity. The only reason you would be upset experienced players want the same is if you're looking for them to carry you through it, that's the harsh truth. This isnt a experienced player issue, it's an entitled newcomer one.

I helped carry two 850's in leviathan, who had no exotics and wearing blue gear, in addition to two other first timers the other day. People out here can help. Im not saying we're everywhere at everytime, but we're out here.

Find other newbies then. After running a raid dozens of times, your patience wears thin, and you gotta admit newbies don’t take it seriously enough to learn.

Basically LFG is a job interview.

D1 must have gjallarhorn was better. You could grind a gun, but kwtd requires getting in to start with or studying a video and hoping for best. Raids need difficulty changes on all tiers so more people can enjoy them while the salty kwtd crowd can properly get themselves wrecked for the glory of an emblem that tells you they are better than you at a game. Normal: reduce mechanical intensity by 50% where 3 people can be complete sheep or not exist and raid can still be won. Only people who cry about this are the ones who aren’t challenged and given bragging right rewards like shaders and emblems from higher challenges. Prestige: normal structure of current “normal” with higher light ???: kick to orbit with high light deficit plus prestige difficulty settings(or worse for the extra sweaty elitists) This would fix raids imo even more so if the people from prestige and higher had. Fact that my achievements list says like 3% of people have done last wish is a telling tale to expectations of people in raids.

i got kicked from heroic menagerie yesterday after we killed the boss. The kid really didn't want me to open the chest for some reason lol. I don't even care i was just finishing means to end but that kid had issues lol. Maybe he was salty i had conqueror and solo flawless prophecy emblem. Things like that make kids salty sometimes lol.

Nobody owes you anything. Demanding only experienced players for a run is 100% okay. Not everyone has the time/patience to be a sherpa. Take a few minutes to watch a raid guide, then clearly explain to LFG that you know the mechanics. Groups will accept you faster than you think. Or make your own group. There are thousands of players in the exact same spot you are. You can do it.

As a raider myself I have to disagree here. Some people just expect to pitch up and be spoon-fed the raid tactics without having looked at any guides at all. Most of the current problems are once again caused by Bungies bs, and left to be dealt with by the player-base. The trumphs seal requires raids to be completed, but previous completions of the older raids do not count. Why? Because yet again Bungie is artificially creating content by forcing you back into redundant raids. So posts to do these raids are primarily people who want to just get them done asap without spending ages teaching new raiders the ropes. These raids would not even be run were it not for the triumph. So please do not blame players for just wanting to get them done with peeps who know them already. Blame Bungies bs attitude of driving people to play irrelevant stuff to hide the lack of content. Our clan still does a raid a week for fun, but its half-hearted now as whats the point

If only there was a way to create your own lfg group, with your own requirements 🤔

I don’t think OP knows what TL;DR means haha