Kinda sucks you’re nerfing the power fantasy for pve and some of these weapons. Why did you make these weapons and perks then? Were they only selling points? It really seems like you don’t test anything at all, it’s just a “yea sounds good let’s do it” for every new thing and then you have to roll it back bc it’s too good. Yea we are clearing a lot of content fast and easy, why shouldn’t we after reaching max levels and god roll gear and loadouts?? It just seems the reward for grinding the best stuff is just to see it nerfed. God I just feel like so much stuff is being taken away when these exotics need REWORKED. Nerfing these weapons and perks still makes most of these exotic weapons shiiiiiiiiiiit. And now that we have to re-grind for 2.0 exotic armor they and are nerfing how we get it WHEN ITS ALREADY DIFFICULT to get exotics. Let alone the exotic you want. Also why play comp now? You’re killing your pvp community. You’re giving us nothing worthwhile to chase and no reason to chase it. Like really? A scout? If it ain’t the best damn scout in the game why tf would anyone use it in crucible...let’s be honest. No one at high comp is using this shit. No one with lunas or NF or recluse or bygones or literally any other weapon is using this scout. Unless it’s the legendary version of Mida, then maybe, and then your whole argument of legendaries being better than exotics goes out the window. Like man it just seems like we still don’t know where guardians fit along the power line. Sometimes we are strong, sometimes we aren’t, we’ve beaten some crazy enemies in the past but Bungie keeps making us feel weak. The same species we fought back then that we overcame are now coming back stronger than us? So we unexplainably become weak again. I just don’t understand what kind of power we are chasing when every dlc the same enemy we overcome comes back stronger.

✅ Selected Answer: There are no more pinnacles, just shitty participation weapons.

Do they even listen to us... No one asked for these nerfs except steamers who play game for 20 hours a day. Literally no one complains about being God in PvE, and yet here you are, nerfing everything to oblivion. Luke Smith and Streamers gonna be death of this game.

Please just focus on the game.

Community: Stop making me play PvP for the best PvE gear and exotics!!!! Bungie: Okay. We're removing PvP pinnacles to do just that. The best PvE loadouts shouldn't force PvP, and these pinnacles have gotten out of control. Community: Now cries about pinnacles. I swear. There is no pleasing the forums. Unfortunately, pinnacles needed to go. The power creep potential and the inability to properly balance something that's supposed to be "the best" kind of makes them inherently game breaking. Hopefully the new version is fun.

You need to really work on clarity when you do these things. Completed Vanguard, Crucible and Gambit bounties are being removed because their rewards are changed. You then mention other completed bounties will stay in our pursuits. But then you mention that Spider bounties are also getting their rewards changed but don’t reassure us or let us down as to whether those will remain in our pursuits or not. The new “Legendary rewards” replacing powerful rewards. Have they ONLY had exotic chances removed or has the power increase been taken away as well? This isn’t clear at all. Over leveling and under leveling content no longer affects the power level of drops received. Does this apply to the old raids? Are the old raids pinnacle activities? What are now considered to BE pinnacle activities? This is extremely vague and needs to be clarified. You mentioned nerfs to our damage increasing perks in PvE by referring to the D1 perk Crowd Control. You stated what that WAS. You stated what the perks currently DO. You offered nothing about what the changes ARE. Why?! You also replied to Reddit 3 times within a few minutes of posting. Zero here. Zero on Twitter. Get it together.

You had so much right with D1...what happened?

Wow, what a terrible, terrible, twab. This has to be the worst twab in the history of destiny. Pinnacle weapons were an event and you replace them with same old curated garbage? Nerfs across the board to go with this. Bungie what are you doing?

Damm man. I am so dissapointed in the nerfs and the "ritual" weapon changes. I fully get it but it feels like some comon core system for destiny in which you want all players to get participation trophies. Not cool.

Awesome. Those needed to be tuned. You guys are very toxic.... Like.... seriously. Y'all should be ashamed of how you're acting.

-blam- all of yall if you wannna nerf recluse im out I already canceled pre order now I’m not playing at all

No mention of infusion costs ? That must be really bad news.

So I read this week at bungie but all I seen was the same things. 950 is the old 750.. but but it 200 more They changed the reasons to do all the same boring weeklies. And my favorite is your damage will be shown different and lower but be assured it's definitely not lower it just appeared lower to make it easier to read. This week's TWAB sure make me wanna run out and spend my money

Will I be able to obtain pinnacle weapons after Shadow Keep launch, even if I have an almost finished quest for this kind of weapon? e.g. I am 2 steps away from getting the Redrix pulse rifle but need to complete 20 crucible bounties and won't be able to get them before Shadow Keep launches. that means I will lost all my progress in that quest and won't get that pinnacle weapon after Shadow Keep?

nerfing weapons before launch.... this is atrocious and bt, nothign about pvp matchmaking strategy changes, about SBMM changes, NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING Nerf to pve power of players, buffs ot enemies because reasons..... Srsly?

The only thing that baffles me is how they can continue to believe that nerfing damage perks will make shitty perks better. It doesn't. But I guess it's a laziness thing again, because instead of re-evaluating all perks and finding ways to make them useful, they just chop the numbers of good ones. Kill clip and Rampage will still be the go-to perks, just less effective now, and no amount of nerfing damage will make perks like "increases accuracy while airborne" any more useful. Beyond the perk nerfs, the fact that Recluse is going to remain untouched in Crucible is a bad idea. Everybody who will be joining the Crucible for the first time is going to get shit on so hard by D2 veteran players with old pinnacle weapons.