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11/15/2018 9:19:30 AM
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Seals should be based on achivement and not RNG
So, i rarely, if ever write in this forum but i really need to try to get my opinion to Bungie in some way and i hope my fellow guardians support my thought.
So, i think the idea with seals are a fun addition to the end game and is something you can grind for if you want. However i think the seals should be based on your achivements and not RNG. What i mean is the following.
If there is a weapon or armor tied to an achivement in the game im all for it, let it be a part of the activity you need for the seal (For example the wish ender bow).
HOWEVER! Having items in the path to achive that seal that is time gated or pure RNG should be removed. Getting a random drop, which may happen or not is not an achivement!
Why am i so salty? Well ive been grinding the Dreaming City ever since forsaken launced. Doing all bounties, stories, patrols, random high value target hunting, shattered throne, acendant challanges heroic blinding well, the raid.. you name it, ive done it all. There are quite a few hours invested here. Dont get me wrong, i love the game and playing. But my sight is set to achive the cursebreaker seal and the only three things that is keeping me from getting it is the ghost, sparrow and ship. These are pure cosmetic items (almost) and purely based on RNG. So getting this achivement is based on pure luck.
Looking at other seals like the Dredgen in Gambit, we also have items you need to collect to achive this seal. However the drop rate of armor and weapons are not a big problem and the other items have specific achivements tied to them.
So i hope Bungie will remove the RNG connected items tied to the seals since i think they should be based on things you need to achive and somthing you know how to grind for.
Thanks
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Interresting that such a upvoted topic and ive seen many other as well about the same thing has no response from Bungie? Seems like the only time you get som response is when someone is crying over a OP weapon or super....
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Edited by Stari: 11/17/2018 11:02:52 AMI only need the ship for Dredgen. In the last two weeks i did more than 100 Gambit matches and got the Primeval Servitor only twice. Lost both matches. So i gave up. This demotivated me, so i almost don't play Destiny any more. Motivation is gone. I love earning, but i hate RNG.
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it is based on achievement - beating the RNG IS the achievement. you get to hold it over fellow guardians.
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5 RepliesPseudo-RNG. Look it up.
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I could easily get Wayfarer, but I need the BrayTech weapons (which are now redundant), the IKELOS Shotgun (which I actually do want and would grind for), AND THAT STUPID OSPREY (also redundant and IMO not worth the effort when I have a god-roll Bad Omens that is probably better).
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1 ReplyGambit rng is still an issue. I had 2 resets before I ever got pillager. Still haven't gotten the shop or sparrow because it's a double rng to get the special boss and then the drop. So I'm all for removal of rng from seals
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I agree. I am about to roll over my Gambit for the 3rd time (I think one more win) and I STILL don't have the shotgun!
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Edited by OldTrafford Fan: 11/17/2018 9:41:13 PMHaving a public event that is TOTALLY RNG gated as the only means to completing a triumph is a dumb thing to begin with. What makes it fargin moronic is requiring 15-20 instances of it for completion. There is NO LEGITIMATE excuse for the Ether Harvest triumph being built the way it is, other than the dev who did it is a punk @ss troll.
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5 RepliesMy problem is the nightfall braytech osprey rocket launcher. I have done this nightfall 40 times in 2 days. 8 hours of work. I scored 161,000 to hit the 110,000 threshold. Its supposed to increase the drop rate every time you complete a nightfall without getting a drop but I still dont have it.
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2 RepliesI can only agree with this. Fun story: I worked on my Dredgen Seal ever since Forsaken has launched and completed 95% of the Seal's Triumphs in the [i]first two weeks[/i] of Forsaken. When the quest for the Malfeasance dropped, the Chimera did not spawn frequently, [i]but[/i] the Gambit Ship as well as the Gambit Sparrow were guaranteed drops from it. Unfortunately I was not able to encounter it that many times to have the Ship drop for me, though I did obtain the Malfeasance - after getting the quest to drop - on the day the quest was released. Since the update of the 30th October, I killed the Chimera several times, but only got rare/blue drops from it. I have been struggling to get the Ship for months now. Despite me completing almost every section in the first weeks, I get really sad when I see how everybody else runs around with the Dredgen title and was able to obtain it so much earlier than me... I've been one item off, and that for months now...
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1 ReplyHave you tried the chests you can only see with tincture of queensfoil? I heard those have higher chances for the ship/ghost and sparrow. That is where i got my ghost from in week 1.
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11 RepliesI'm in the same boat. I'm working on "Curse breaker", and "Wayfarer" since launch and I'm closer to getting "Dredgen" than eather of those because of RNG. The two real problems with (for me) with "Wayfarer" are the escalation armor and the eather harvest at the tangled shore. The last 10 or so times I got to open the box from a Level 7 escalation I got..... The same armor I already had. I mean seriously Bungie I have to through your words back at you; you told us that you want getting loot to be exciting (it's not). Now about the eather harvest at the tangled shore this public event SUCKS or rather how long you have to wait around doing nothing for it to spawn is what sucks. I took a whole day 8ish hours of my day standing there waiting for the event to spawn and I saw the event a whole ... (wait for it).... 4 times. 4 FOUR TIMES IN EIGHT HOURS!!! I might have been having a bad day but I wasn’t alone there were others waiting with me and it's sad. Things like this and many others are why some of my friends are banking armor sets and remaking characters to have 3 of the same class so they can farm for that one exotic that you need for the Meta and this should not be a thing. Give us more Quests instead of more RNG and you will have more engaged players.
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1 ReplyThey titles mean absolutely nothing as long as they're RNG based. Trash, useless garbage.
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I dont mind RNG, but give us a path. Farming NF is easier than wandering around dreaming city hoping something will drop.
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4 RepliesYa there BS. Hell even if I was lucky with RNG drops I didn't get Harbingers Echo due to that one glitch so I'm SoL anyway.
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5 Repliesi agree with this. all i need for Rivensbane is the stupid glittering key so that i can get the ship. i have everything else done (including petras run). it sucks being so close and having to depend on RNG i was the same way with Cursebreaker until the ship magically dropped last weekend in the shattered throne. hate that these are tied to RNG gods BTW, incase you didnt already know, the dreaming city ship only drops from the shattered throne. and yes, it is a random rng drop. so you basically get a max of 9 chances every 3 weeks for it. pretty lame
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3 RepliesRNG is the basis of the destiny replay loop
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For the love of god at least fix the breytech weapons!! I’ve been grinding for the auto rifle for months now!! I’ve done so many of the stupid events and patrols I’m sick of it! Bungie remove the stupid RNG or at least fix it.
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15 RepliesThe drop rate of weapons and armour in gambit can be an issue. A friend who played a week straight of gambit with me during the double/triple infamy event needed only one weapon and through 2 full resets, 30k points, he didn't get it at all. The rest of those triumphs were a bit harder, especially winning a game with all gambit weapons equipped, they are mostly hot trash and I did that before getting the god roll bygones. The other pain in the ass is, "protect the runner" which is the hidden triumph on page 1. I mean I got carried for that one and then earned my own later but holy damn :p
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First, I agree with this post. Take RNG out of seals. Saw someone else post the dreaming city cosmetics come from one place or from a set place for that item. They can literally come from almost all activities on the dreaming city. I think there’s a higher drop rate from certain activities like the weekly Petra mission, first run of the shattered throne, ascendent challenge and weekly bounty, but all things from HVT kills to lost sectors to blind well and raid have had drops reported. The only two things that would be considered activities I haven’t seen or heard happen is drops from patrol beacons and daily Petra bounties.
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I agree. I've only been needing the ghost shell to complete the Cursebreaker seal but it still hasn't dropped for me even though I complete everything there is to do in the Dreaming City on 3 characters every week. It's absolutely ridiculous.
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There should be seals for vanilla users. That's all i've gotta say
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2 RepliesAgreed I've never seen a EP weapon drop and I've beaten EP 33 times. I mean how is it fair that I have to grind twice if not more than my clan mates to get the same titles because they have better drop rates. I am getting sick of the game because I'm being forced to grind for stuff while everyone else is having fun doing what they please.
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3 RepliesI think your cosmetics are tied to the shattered throne. I got the ship and sparrow from there. No luck with the shell yet.
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6 RepliesEdited by SteveOfSteves: 11/15/2018 9:28:04 PMI agree. I've spent 30+ hours the last couple of weeks farming for resonate stems so I can get the 18 Kelvins to finish up the Wayfarer title. That doesn't include the 2,500+ stems I've already combined to hit 40/40 sleeper nodes. After all that grinding, the 18 Kelvins still hasn't dropped for me. Would be nice if Bungie would give us a guaranteed way to obtain stuff in this game, while making players still work for it. You want the Braytech weapons? Open 10 Sleeper Nodes to purchase the 18 Kelvins. Open 25 Sleeper Nodes to purchase the Nilhelm Frost. Open 50 Sleeper Nodes to purchase the Frigid Jackal. Open 100 Sleeper Nodes to purchase the Winter Wolf. You want Nightfall-specific loot? Reach a combined total of "x" amount of points for that specific nightfall strike. Make us work for it, and encourage us to challenge ourselves with modifiers and handicaps to obtain more points per run. I'm ready to give up on these seals. Eventually, you reach a point where the amount of time you have to invest is no longer worth a stupid title.
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1 ReplyNo matter what, I can't seem to get the stupid rocket from Nokris 😭. Last thing I need for Wayfarer
