Last week I made a post theorizing “Taox is here...maybe?”
In that post I listed three possible answers.
Semi-Jokingly I suggested Taox might be Eris Morn and has been here the whole time. Simply based off her physical description.
Well a new lore tab called “It’s Just Me” shows some surprising connection to this theory.
She also suggested that Warlocks dissect her messages for proof.
So here I am again.
Now to be clear I believe Taox IS and WILL be a major part of Destiny.
Here is a full explanation:
I believe The Traveler is really a ship.
A Ahamkara ship to be specific.
In the Hive Bible “Books Of Sorrow” we can find that The Traveler is really the cause of Hive as a whole.
We humans were not the first “Guardians of Light.”
Who knows who really was.
But we know The Helium Drinkers were such beings.
Just like The Fallen The Traveler came to their world and subjected The Osmium Kingdom to suffering. When Taox orchestrated an assassination on her wayward “children” the sisters survived of course.
Eventually making their way to find The Deep.
They pledge an enteral oath to hunt The Traveler down and destroy The Light.
So Taox and The Traveler went from civilization to civilization preparing species for the coming Hive.
This went on for thousands of years.
Every world every species was wiped clean.
Completely.
And yet Taox survived. As well as The Traveler.
All the way back to Sol.
Now originally in the storyboards and cutscenes for Destiny and Destiny 2 there was this “Woman of Darkness” Guardians met that either came with or was inside The Traveler.
She tried to warn us about her “Ancient Enemy” that would come to destroy everything.
Judging that both Taox and The Hive have sworn oaths to kill the other.....this conflict is unresolved.
Now even deeper to that.
There is a 5th race of beings called The Eldritch.
They are seemingly cosmic beings made of pure Darkness.
The folks in the Pyramids of Darkness.
See Oryx stole his power too.
That’s why they are called “Taken.”
He stole his power from The Eldritch.
Which is why Taken are just zombified vestiges.
One can not truly be alive without the mind and soul.
But we will see more on that when we go to Enceladus in the spring. For that is the place where The Drifter got his chunk of moon and where the Clovis Bray facility The Deep Stone Crypt is.
I believe The Eldritch created both The Ahamkara and The Worm Gods.
See this is all really a galactic play about “Balance.”
One deals in Light and brings death.
One deals in Darkness and brings immortality.
Even before Riven was Taken there is plenty of proof that dealing with such beings always results in something more horrid than death.
They are one in the same.
Two sides of the same coin.
Two siblings cleaved by time and space.
See it’s kinda like Halo and The Forerunners.
We paracausal beings mess everything up for our creators don’t we?
At some point they deem us to be unworthy and try and kill us.
That is what I believe happened at Fundament.
These Eldritch beings played God with the universe one to many times and it bit them on the arse.
Now they are trying to fix that mistake.
We started out no different than all the other races The Traveler and whatever thing is inside it visited.
Power hungry and greedy murderous things.
But through the help of having our minds “wiped” by Clovis Bray blissful ignorance has made us the perfect weapon against The Travelers enemies.
Like moths to a flame they will continue to come.
Till either we are all dead or everything else is.
Now I’ve seen a few explanations posted on The Net (starring Sandra Bullock) still theorizing about Taox, Medusa, who they are, and what this letter from Eris could really mean.
I believe it is straight forward and to the point.
There is no hidden meaning in this message that this Warlock can find.
The message is actually heartbreaking truth.
In “It’s Just Me” Eris says she created “Medusa” so she could talk to us without really “talking” to us because she is suffering from extreme PTSD from her encounter with Crota.
So in her depression she created Medusa to communicate with us.
She subsequently apologizes for her behavior even further proving she is still suffering severe mental trauma.
Medusa does not exist. Never did.
It was just the unraveling depressed mind of Eris Morn communicating with us from a dark lonely pit of despair.
Here is the lore piece “It’s Just Me.”:
“I’ve had three weeks to consider the way I've treated you. I feel I must make a full confession.
When I left the Tower in search of Savathûn's agents, I had accepted my fate as a knight on Mara Sov's cosmic chessboard, doomed to seek the final end of the Hive among cold stars. I said farewell only to those who couldn't hear me. Because I was afraid that just one voice asking me to stay might break my resolve.
It was pitiful weakness that made me write to you. It was a wretched desire to be remembered as a person, not a ghoul, that made me tell you about the child Erisia, St. Petersburg, and the cold waters of the Neva. Those things were all true.
The rest…
I'm so ashamed. Mid-sentence, mid-thought, the fear seized me that I was being a stupid child; that I was wasting your time with idiot sentiment; that you would feel contempt for me at this outpouring of emotion or, worse, feel nothing at all. I hid in the dark for years, Guardian. It's not loneliness or death that frightens me. It's the opposite.
So I invented Medusa as a way to pretend I'd never spoken to you. And when I thought the Medusa lie was slipping, I invented all the rest of it, as a way to tell you what I'd learned without admitting it was really me.
How can I prove to you that I'm really Eris Morn? Not Medusa, not Riven, not Quria, not Dûl Incaru, not the Witch-Queen Herself? I don't know. Will you believe me? Will you scour these pages for proof or disproof? Will you upload these files to your networks, share them, call in Warlocks and Cryptarchs to catalogue and dissect everything I've said? Will this manuscript become the foundation of another teetering edifice of theory and anticipation?
What a fool I've made of myself. All because I faltered in my conviction, tried to reach back to someone I know is lost to me, and panicked at the thought of touch. But so it is, and nothing I do can now make it otherwise. I am a woman full of secrets, a woman who has lost everyone she ever called a friend, and when the need to share those secrets collided with the fear of friendship, I stumbled idiotically into needless lies.
Do you know what the Hive say when they want to express the inevitability of a thing? When they want to say, it is this way because it could be no other way?
Aiat.”
As you can see this is saddening.
Eris believes she is all alone and hopes we can forgive her.
She never needed any forgiveness.
She never did anything wrong.
And she doesn’t have to be alone in her suffering.
She may try and tell us her actions were not out of loneliness or sadness. But this too is a lie.
Eris is afraid of rejection.
Afraid we will reject her.
After what she went through with Crota all she wanted was for us to listen.
We did what we Guardians always do.
Myself included.
“Crazy Warlocks. I don’t trust them.”
It is no surprise she turned to The Queen.
I hope Eris can forgive us..........
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Edited by SkinPoppeR: 10/19/2019 5:12:33 AM“These Books are full of lies.” I’m never giving up my Taox. I don’t know why I’m so obsessed with her...... So at the end of shadowkeep we see a statue of a female humanoid covered with what appears to be a shroud of darkness. This statue is revered in nature so who ever this being was is respected as a mother figure. I only know of one mother figure in Destiny......Taox. We know there are lies or at least things the witch queen disagree with in the books of sorrow. But we can determine most of it is true. For example the personality descriptions told through narrative such as Xivu’s armies of course are true. Crota, Oryx. This info appears to be correct. The bits of info about the worm gods match with our experiences and own knowledge as well. So what’s really left that we can’t verify? What exact “Lies” does she mean? I think it has to do with their history and creation. What if Taox isn’t just the “mother“ figure of Hive. What if she is the “mother” of everything. I mean the books of sorrow are a biblical text for the Hive. So naturally you’d want to paint a picture of redemption and duty in your bible when it came time to create one for your culture. It’s point is to control and inspire the masses. The only point of Hive existence is conquest. It would make sense that the ultimate conquest would be to kill the gods....The very beings that made you. Hive only worship themselves. So they painted Taox as they did. But maybe just maybe this has all been about revenge on Taox for the Hive. They disdain the light and wish to control the darkness themselves. The Traveler is painted as destroying their world, Fundament unworthy, and Taox beat for treachery and fled. I mean come on the Hive are baddies. So in their bible they of course make themselves as justified in their cause to galvanize their peoples will. Also before Mara left her court we got a message about a “Queen” working tricks of Light and Darkness. We all took this “Queen” to be Savathün. But again baddie. There is no light in Hive. IDK but I’m never giving up my Taox. And with how Bungie has been amazing at being characters from lore actually into the game I firmly believe we will see Taox at some point.
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When the Traveler got stranded on earth, Thats when T.T. created the Ghost to find Guardians. Which where the first Guardians. Your facts on the lore are a skew.
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2 Replieswell idk where she is since destiny 2
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3 RepliesExcept Eris was a hunter not a warlock.
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8 Replies1. Nowhere in the lore are the “Eldritch” mentioned or confirmed to exist 2. Oryx didn’t steal his power from the Eldritch. He took it from Akka when he killed it. 3. I honestly feel like Taox has been scrapped from the game and is only mentioned in the Books of Sorrow.
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1 ReplyEdited by xXZeroShikiXx: 9/28/2018 4:57:21 PMI do think that they mention that the travellers stop at Earth was when Guardians were created. It appeared, started the Golden Age in the hope that some form of super weapon would be developed, then was going to abandon us like the Fallen when it realised it wouldn't be enough to fight off it's pursuers. Rasputin, who was designed to defend the Earth, discovered this and decided that the Traveler was integral to Earths survival. Rasputin then devised a plan to send a team inside the traveler and cripple it. Injured, stuck and desperate, the traveler created the Ghosts which revived people based on some form of system (since the Ghosts all seem to look for their specific person) and the Risen were born. They eventually evolved into the Guardians. I see the Traveller as a being of Light, hope and desperation. The Darkness following it is Violent, desperate and hungry. They both bring Death and Life. They're both assholes. And we're set to be F'd in the A by the end of it all. [spoiler]all the stuff about Eris is pretty neat though.[/spoiler]
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Edited by FdYAcsoyPKN83gLE: 9/29/2018 5:05:58 PMYou don't know about depression?
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I've always felt sad for Eris. She, Cayde, and Variks were the best characters in my opinion, still are. I felt bad on behalf of the Vanguard when Eris noted that the queen is the only one who sees her as she is: a Hunter. And dare I say, one of the best.
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Idk is there sadness in the successful lesson of forgiveness? Yes and no. Yes for her, no for us.
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Right now the lore guys are having a fit. Is she really who she is said to be, who is she really, what is or was her true roll ? She is a big question mark and no one really knows anything about her for sure anymore.
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5 Repliesactually if you knew halo lore you'd know the all fathers of the halo universe are the precursors. They got bit in the arse because they saw humans worthy of the mantle rather than forerunners so forerunners killed them mostly all but a few who managed to transform into dust which was meant to be reshaped later but something happened and it got corrupted and the ancient advanced humans found this dust and experimented on dogs and after a few generations said dogs became more cannibalistic and infected thus the flood was born. The precursors are the flood as the final test to the humans if they really were worthy of the mantle of responsibility also to get back at the forerunners for killing them
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But Eris was a known guardian....how did a cosmic alien (pre-hive with a shirt life span) make it all the way to earth precollapse so that she could have died in order to be ressurected in the travelers light? And I've always thought that it looks like there are buildings inside the traveler when you look at it. I dunno.
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Oh god, that was heartbreaking 😭
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4 RepliesEdited by Circadian Wolf: 9/27/2018 10:23:10 PMYour comment about the traveler being an Ahamkara ship is interesting, here's an excerpt from the ghost story "Whether Windmills or Cranes" about a ghost and his 'special' guardian. [quote]"Panza, old man," he started. "The Dragon is gone, but he yielded his treasure to me in a whisper… A secret so dire it may just save us all." He leaned closer and said in a hushed voice, as if sharing a confidence, "The Traveler is no gift—it is a lie… A beacon for death and destruction. Within be dragons, nurtured by our suffering, weaned on our hope. All dragons must die. The shell must be cracked till its yolk drowns those who worship its deceit. Our last great conquest. The crowning battle of our legend writ large." And then he shouted, "For Light to endure, the Traveler must perish!"[/quote] Granted the dragon this guardian was talking about was merely a rusted industrial crane but still, interesting.