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9/17/2018 8:12:59 PM
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Guys, I need your advice/help.
>Hi.
So I have a moral question/human rights question. To make a long story short, a friend of mine, lets call her Emily, is going through a rough time right now. Her parents are divorced, her mom drinks, and hung over most of the time. Her Family used to be super Catholic, but now they refuse to take her to Church or bible study. I asked her if she was coming to our meeting on Saturday, but she said her parents won't let her go, even when I offered to give her a ride. I am genuinely worried about her and her freedom of religion. What are your thoughts, guys?<
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Call child welfare of her mom and have them place her w your family. That, or when you know she has been drinking and then drives, call in anonymous tip to police. Do it day before/of Bible study, that way her mom will be in jail and she can go.
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2 RepliesShe needs to be given the gospel of Christ and should look to join a bible-believing church. Without going into detail, the catholic church is not leading anyone to salvation for many reasons (speaking as a former catholic). Might I suggest, even if she can't find a different church, read the Word of God day and night as it will give a person spiritual peace through all of God's wisdom that he makes available to us (speaking from experience), and read the King James, not a diluted-down/corrupted version. All the best.
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1 ReplyHave Emily reach out to adults that are close to her mom. Ideally family members that live locally. Emily should take some time to gather her thoughts, organize them, write them down, etc. since it may get emotional and what she has to say is important. Emily should explain the situation her mom is in and ask for help. At 15, she is capable of rational thought, but in her mom's state, she might not be willing to listen to her daughter, whi she may still see as a kid. Having an adult family member approach Emily's mom will also help prevent her mom from getting mad at Emily, which could cause a bad home situation. The adult shoukd not mention that it was Emily who prompted the adult coming by to check in. Make sure Emily makes that clear to the adult. If Emily wants to remain in touch with her faith, then trying to help her mother is a constructive way to do so. She can use a lot of lessons from her faith to show love and compassion and support for her mom, which may help her mom to get to a better place. After the adult talks to Emily's mom, Emily could mention a bible study and say that she understands that her mom may be uncomfortable with her going out, and ask if she can host the bible study at home. Having young people over who are studying the bible may help Emily's mom because Emily's mom will hopefully want to appear respectable, and refrain from drinking or being hung over since there will be people over. During the bible study, do your best to include Emily's mom from time to time, asking her advice and clarification about things to help get her involved. I wish you and Emily the best!
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Like some other people said try to do it at another place instead of the church. If she really wants to practice a religion she can do it anywhere! Her parents said she couldn't go to church but that doesn't mean she can't go to your house or anywhere else, right?
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[quote]>Hi. So I have a moral question/human rights question. To make a long story short, a friend of mine, lets call her Emily, is going through a rough time right now. Her parents are divorced, her mom drinks, and hung over most of the time. Her Family used to be super Catholic, but now they refuse to take her to Church or bible study. I asked her if she was coming to our meeting on Saturday, but she said her parents won't let her go, even when I offered to give her a ride. I am genuinely worried about her and her freedom of religion. What are your thoughts, guys?<[/quote] Do the meeting at her house. At a park near her. Maybe y’all should just go out and do it at a restaurant or mall or Starbucks or something. Do it over Skype or something from the comforts of your own home if you’ve no other way, perhaps.
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Nothing, you can do nothing except pray for her folks, since you are religious. Until she is 18 or out of their house, she essentially has no rights beyond what her parents give her. Another thing, if you do anything other than be a supportive listener, you are just adding more stress on her and can make her resent you and your church. As much as her mom is being a pill, you don't know the reasoning behind her motivations. They could be as simple as she joined the church when she was married to be closer to the man who has left her and is now blaming everything that is a reminder of him or they could be as complicated as he is threatening to take her daughter if she so much as makes her farts stink from feeding her broccoli. Just quietly be there for her. Be her rock. Let her know that you are not going to keep asking her to go, because you don't want to cause her any additional stress.
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First off, my condolences are with "Emily". Secondly, as a child with a rough upbringing, I can relate to Emily. I never did anything to change it. I only became numb to the pain that wouldn't go away. Emily needs help. Her parents (which [b]should[/b] be her go to), are unable to help, as they are the cause of the problems. I have some solutions. Pick the best one (or don't), and try it. I haven't had much experience with dealing with stuff like this. As I said before, mostly ignored it or got used to it. -Child Protection Services. I only ever tried one thing with my parents. That was threatening to call CPS. Not the most ideal situation, but I would hope that Emily is concerned for herself the most. -Religious freedom. Not every child is given religious freedom. Emily should have the best interest for herself spiritually, but still stay within the parameters of respecting and obeying her parents. I would suggest reading her bible and doing normal things, until her parents let up. Or she moves out. Finally, wait and pray. There is not much you can do here. I would be there to listen to her, rather than give advice. [quote]Speech is silver, silence is gold.[/quote]
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6 RepliesMaybe her parents realized it's all fake?
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maybe its not her going to Church and maybe its her going to Church with you?
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... question, what is her dad doing, because you didn't really mention him... [spoiler]not included in the DLC[/spoiler]
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1 ReplyShe still has freedom of religion, the first amendment applies only to the government suppressing speech, religion, etc. but I see your point. I would have it at her house, maybe her mom would think twice about drinking if she knew others were coming over.
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Well I mean they are her parents so they can do what they think is best. If she really wants to go she should sit her parents down and have a talk with them.
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why does it require some sort of religious background if you want to meet her? just invite her to theater/dinner, talk to her, be there for her as a lover or friend.
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Hi, I am very sorry to hear about your friend. You have to help her as much as you can. As other members suggested, maybe try contacting her relatives for help. More importantly pay close attention to Emily, if you notice any signs of physical, mental, or emotional abuse; lack of food, supervision, or medical care you should immediately contact your local social/child protective services. I really hope her situation will get better! You guys are in my thoughts.
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You’d look great as a brunette. -Ron Swanson
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Smash.
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12 RepliesEdited by DTRAIN451: 9/18/2018 12:39:45 AMI'd start by getting her help with her parent's relationship. Then, help her get her life figured out before she goes for religion, as it sounds like she has more important things to settle. As someone mentioned already, she doesn't have to be an active church goer to believe.
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forget about her ?
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Notify the inquisition [spoiler]jokes aside, this isn't really a topic I can provide advice on, good luck with it though, hopefully it all works out [/spoiler]
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2 RepliesShe’s still free to practice her religion. You don’t have to go to church to actively have faith. It’s not a criteria.
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She's shit out of luck until she's making her own way in life. Her parents technically get to make those decisions for her as long as she's under their care. Should that be the way it works? No. Unfortunately, the world never asked if we liked how things are.
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2 RepliesEdited by Fixit: 9/17/2018 10:03:48 PMIf she's under 18 her parents pretty much control her, but from the sounds of it I doubt they would actually care if she goes. Maybe she doesn't want to do it anymore or has more important things occupying her time atm.
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1 ReplyHow old is she?
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3 RepliesIf she wants to go take her
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3 Repliesif she wants to go, it is her right. but, how old is she?
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Bump for awareness
