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Destiny 2 Narrative Preview

Before Warmind launches next week, our narrative team is pulling back the curtain to share some notes on the new story they are about to tell.
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  • Hey so now Rasputin, who was trapped on Earth when he was cut off from the Warmind network, is centered on Mars somehow, makes perfect sense, I'm glad the people writing current lore actually bothered to read previous lore.

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    • I love lore. I really love it. I soak up the Destiny lore and interpretations the community puts out. Anything that gives us more lore, background and story is much appreciated. As interesting as the comics are they aren’t well written. There are tropes and commonly overused phrasing. Also big info dumps that violate the “show, don’t tell” rule. One character speaking to another: “As you know [insert a huge blob of information here].” It’s lazy storytelling. The comics are nice to have and all but it’s a bad way to fill in the gaps in the in-game story. Bungie, put this into the game! And on the app and a lore tab on your toon.

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      • Wow! Thanks so much Bungie! Such a great comic. Can't wait for Part.2.

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      • Great but not interested in comics. I'm more interested in in-game storyline development.........you know........to keep players engaged in-game.

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        • as much as I would point out that this lore belongs IN the game, as a stop motion, or simply as a slideshow.. I have to say that this Comic is WAY better than the Osiris one.. it narrates and gives background why something is happening or why the character shown does something.. there should have been a flashback to the Traveller when Ana was losing her light.. or some other "explanation" because its not obvious for everyone (basic mistake at storytelling, you need to presume that your audience is not familiar with everything..) but all in all a way better start than the Osiris disaster .. I am interested to the number two and see where it takes the story.. now put that in Game , every week one additional slideshow explaining one of the many plot lines in the game and we are heading in the right direction.. make it so you have to do something to see that and you have a brilliant reason for players to return to the game and check in.. you should also have one strain for PvP and one for PvE Minimum.. so that both factions can follow a story over time. (and of course the past slideshows need to be available to watch even if I just arrive at season 10 episode 20)

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        • So the [u]Last[/u] Warmind suddenly became the [u]Only[/u] Warmind ever? I thought multiple warminds fought and died during the collapse. 🤨

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          • Bahahaha... D2 is $10. at Best Buy and Game Stop. Damn I was stupid to purchase it at release. Never again Bungo.

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            • Until your "narrative team" actually adds a Grimoire or Codex that is actually IN THE DAMMED GAME, who gives a fuq.

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              • How about adding a library to the tower with all the lore? Maybe you get to unlock different sections of lore or have to do a bit of research to find a hidden quest. That could be cool.

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                • Put the friggin story in the game.

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                  • The thing is that we had grimoire back in D1. We had this cool lore thing in the website. You removed both features. The in game lore is really bad. Like dont get me going with Course of Osiris. And this comic thing just drop it please. Just a few care and the comic itself is just meh. As we have always being saying. 1) Put the lore IN THE GAME. If not, then 2) return our grimmoire and all the info we unlocked and had back at the old website.

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                    • Move to feedback, shutdown bungie

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                    • I came hoping to see how you plan to introduce story. Instead, you're trying to sell us a comic with the story in it. The most disgraceful thing is that this is exactly what you did with Curse of Osiris, you launched a comic to tell the story we cared about instead of actually exploring it in game. I'm sorry, but I love playing games for their story, that's why the Xenoblade series is one of my favorite. And I consider it an insult to story telling when you're doing what Asura's Wrath did (for those that don't know, AW ends on a cliffhanger, but then a DLC called 'True Ending' came out. So if you wanted to see how the game really ended, you had to buy it).

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                      • I was excited about these updates. [spoiler]until I wasn’t[/spoiler]

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                        • Glad to see Charlemagne finally referenced, but again the retconning hurts. Now he’s apparently a “submind?” So the old lore about Rasputin surviving where his brothers fell because he shut down and hid (and subsequently became something more than a warmind), about each planet having its own warmind, the mission way back in vanilla D1 where you release Rasputin out to the solar system... all nonsense now if this holds up. There’s more that this disrupts. Like the line about the Nine that theorizes they may have been Deepspace warminds. Small stuff I guess, but if this setting wants to be enjoyable you guys need to respect what came before lore wise. Build off it instead of constantly reworking it and reducing.

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                          • [quote]"new story"[/quote] The old one wasn't good enough so it was retconned again.

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                          • 👎🏼 wtf guys?! 2 games, both with short uneventful 6-8hr campaigns, and you guys can’t put this shit in the DLC to flesh it out a bit more. Are you a game developer or a comic book publisher?

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                            • This is all so depressing.

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                              • I would like Bungie to address the fact that they will likely waste the first year of this game's life cycle just trying to get back to ground zero of Destiny. A year that should have been spent innovating the game, was instead spent adding back features and systems that they had already developed and implemented once before. They haven't even given us more vault space, after telling us that the only thing preventing it was last-gen hardware. In fact, the vault is smaller now than it was when Destiny ended.

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                                • They've officially folklored Charlemagne. Having more than one Warmind must of been too much for the writing team to handle.

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                                  • Dafuq?.....

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                                  • Edited by kris_tunetso: 4/30/2018 10:22:55 PM
                                    Happy, and annoyed. Odd how Bungie can elicit that response so often. Happy to have more additional information and lore that (hopefully) is condiered canon and not 'folklore' as dear Christine Thompson so casually put it. So Tyra's over 300 years old. Neat. That's 3 characters now with actual numbers to their age. Charlemagne's a submind of Rasputin.... This is what annoys me. True, until now Charlemagne was never a [i]canon[/i] character: he only existed in pre-release data and concept art. However, we tended to consider him a canon character, if one not implemented. This of course leads to problems when an official inclusion ends up being different from how the fanbase has, more or less, accepted the character. Our fault as players, not yours, for getting too invested in our own.... headcanon? Is that's what it's called? Anyway, for the last 4 years we have accepted that Charlemagne was the Warmind of Mars, just as Rasputin was the Warmind of Earth. Ghost even talks about the "Warmind of Mars" in D1 vanilla. Instead we're now finding out he's just a submind. Yes, "just" a submind. I think many of us consider subminds to be little more than attaches of a larger, more powerful mind. Like EITs doing work for engineers, or paralegals doing work for lawyers: they do menial, less-important tasks so the bigger minds can focus on the bigger issues. With this new lore bit, you might as well just come out and say it: There is only 1 Warmind. There has only ever been 1 Warmind. Rasputin is not "the last" warmind, as that suggests that he once had equals. Instead, he is [i]the[/I] warmind, the only warmind that has ever been. All other 'minds' are just subminds of Rasputin. Failsafe? Submind. Malahayati? Submind. Everything's a submind because Rasputin can have no equal. Sorry for the salt, but this is just aggravating. Can your writers, just once, take a commonly-held fanbase theory and make it canon? Everyone thought Yor was a Hunter based on all the information available: nope, Titan, because reasons. We thought Charlemagne was a Warmind on par with Rasputin: nope, submind. I don't want answers or responses; I;m just venting. It's just that things like this are what make me actively avoid holding too tightly to anything lore-related: you'll just change it at your whim.

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                                    • Could you release an official and complete lore book for D1 (including book of sorrow, siva clusters... And new illustrations) ? I'd buy that.

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                                      • [i]Rahool needs to get his head out of his engrams[/i] 😆

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                                        • Smh. Some people just want to complain about anything and everything. For them nonstop salt is the true endgame and they wouldn't have it any other way.

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                                          • LOL.. Thanks Bungo , you never stop to amaze me! Bravo!! Well done! You must be very proud..

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