going 2 be a repeat of d1, 1 nerd going 2 get mad and start ddos every gd player they see. once all gd players leave trials due to this ppl will stop whineing. how 2 prevent if you have a gd kd or kda teach others how 2 play. lets not have non stop sever attacks in d2. this seems stupid but its not, sometimes that average player is the only reason the game isn't dead yet. ask yourself do you want dead content so soon? the only other way is forced learning which means all guns would have 2 do 1/4th of the damage except power weapons, this forces ppl to team shot its no longer a option.

This argument will never be solved. The "elite" players say flawless should be earned and if they can't win they need to "git gud". The "average" players say they just want to play against people on their level (or worse) for a fair chance at flawless however, those same players would probably have the same attitude as the "elite" players once they get what they want. I can see both sides of the argument but there is a glaring hole in one side: The "elite" players are not being completely honest with themselves. If "elite" player X had to play 7 games: Game 1 vs Lumi, Game 2 vs nKuch, Game 3 vs WarBulletProof, Game 4 vs DrLupo, Game 5 vs Krafty, Game 6 vs TrueVanguard, Game 7 vs TripleWreck.. They would be singing an entirely different tune. "Oh but that's not the same" According to your argument, it is the same. "Trials is end game PVP, its supposed to be hard" For the average player, playing against some of you "elite" players is like you guys playing against the players listed above every single match and if you were honest with yourselves you would not want to play matches against those players and their teams every single match, every single weekend and if you did you would be crying the same tune as the "average" player saying "you just want a fair shot". Some of you are reading this saying "I will just practice and get better until I can win anyway" No you won't. Others are saying "I already face teams just as good if not better than all those guys listed" No you don't. And if you do, you don't face them 7 straight games every single card you play. Even if you don't agree with the OP, at least give his idea some thought before you just dismiss it and say "git gud". Disclaimer 1: Not saying those guys are unbeatable. Just using their names for sake of the argument. Disclaimer 2: I think trials is fine the way it is, buuuut I understand OPs frustration. Disclaimer 3: Internet warriors.. En garde.. lol

I love facing the same trash team back to back where we leave them on 0 both times .haha.

The only reason I am for this is it would make it slightly harder for paid carries. Instead of a flawless player being able to carry others by playing random they would have a tougher challenge since they would have dead weight playing stronger opponents.

Its end game content. It is NOT meant to be easy. Mate if you want easy go play wii sports. If you want end game.loot you have to earn it. No point bitching about it haha scrubs

https://youtu.be/4tI2CaP1db8 trials is really easy and if you know how you can make it fun. Challenge yourself use different weapons and do carries. That's how I keep my self into the trials of the Nine. Running with a stacked team is boring and no fun. Check out this video so you can see what I mean

Been saying this since D1. Getting tired of seeing stacked 2.0+ kds carrying someone for cash. Unfortunately though these kind of people that play trials 24/7 would make destiny 2 lose a lot of its player base, which is why this hasnt been done.

I can't be bothered to play trials. Eventually most people will reach that point too. It'll hardly be a successful game mode, but it brings in the streamer publicity so I doubt Bungie cares.

So, in D1 this makes since but D2 pvp is super easier. I actually die more to lag then to actual gun fights. It's real fun seeing the bullet go through a wall and seeing the impact texture on the wall that comes and kills me. I'd be fine if I died trying to get around the corner but during behind the 3foot thick wall is not fun.

I wish trials was elimination still :( not a fan of countdown, and survival takes too long

Bungie you know what to do, [u][b]*Hotfix incoming*[/b][/u]

What made Trials unique in Destiny1 was the bracket based matchmaking. As a team progresses through their card without taking a loss they end up playing other players who have not had a loss. Usually, but not always, when a team played their final flawless game it was against a team that was also going for flawless or running scarab... I am a dedicated casual and didn't go flawless much over the course of Destiny1 but did go to the lighthouse a hand full of times and what made it so sweet was that plays were made against really good players to achieve flawless. There was no easy path for the casual. On the occaisions that I won with friends who had put blood sweat and tears into getting good enough to go flawless... It felt so damn good!! On the few occaisions that I won a lottery and was invited to play with top tier players I learned so much and also had a great time. Because it was hard to go flawless in D1 there was a demand that was created and from that demand blossomed a unique community with positive points and negative..... Based on my experience and what I have read... correct me if I am wrong..THe current Destiny 2 Trials of Osiris matchmaking algos are strictly connection based. A team going for flawless could match against a team playing their first game.... a team of scrubs could easily win 7 games in the current system granted they are lucky enough to not match against good players SO Now is the time for YOU to have a chance to go flawless. When and if Bungie changes to a bracket based matchmaking in Trials someone like you who, who is not a PvPer will have no chance of going flawless unless you win a raffle and get carried by a streamer or likewise practice and get good. Point is the Trials of Osiris experience in Destiny 2 pales in comparison to the Trials experience in Destiny 1 due to the current connection based matchmaking system that is in place.....(and the opening animations which take way too long)..... To enact the system that YOU suggest would further deteriorate the Trials experience. GOing to the Spire should be earned not entitled.

SBMM, that's it.

This will be good but it will take time to perfect but if they implement something like this it will help alot

I agree- good fix

Going flawless isn't meant to be easy. I do agree a system like in the first game should be used but at the same time they shouldn't just make flawless players only ever face flawless players.