except you forget for the cabal to have gotten to earth they would have A: possibly pass over efrideet and her pacifist colony. yeah, they could have killed them all, but efrideet would have smart enough to send a transmission to Saladin... as all guardian transmission are near instantaneous, and her colony is somewhere in the outer system B: the nine. possibly monolithic leviathans located in the seas of Europa and numerous of other jovial colonies of the outer system. they are highly territorial and are said to be near the power of the ahamkara and possibly even the worm gods. granted, they are impartial, but last time someone went into their colonies univited, skolas got released and the HOW crisis started. and the cabal couldn't have killed them all. C: the DO fleet that was sanctioned by Zavala after the outbound signal mission during the taken war. even if they killed every guardian and destroyed the fleet ship, we would still get distress beacons or we would have a lack there of comms on the ship, which would cause for curiosity and investigation near Saturn D: the dreadnaught is gone. meaning savathûn or xivu arath recalled it, or the cabal destroyed it. either way, there would be somewhere around 12 to 24 guardians training in the crucible maps there alone, and numerous more patrolling and studying the place. the crucible guardians who would have their sightings sent straight to shaxx. not to mention the numerous of patrol beacons that would've gone off line. someone would've gone to investigate. E: the reef awoken. yes, they no longer have their harbingers, and Mara sov, uldren, and the techuns are missing. but Petra would have tried SOMETHING. and variks would have notified his great wardens. not to mention, if the reef military couldn't stop the fleet; they would have sent their civilians to warn us and to find refuge. not to mention the multiple guardians who would have been in the vestian outpost F: the hundreds - if not thousands - of guardians patrolling, striking, and training in crucible would have noticed the giant -blam!-ing armada headed straight to earth with similar markings to cabal. some of which would be knowledgeable of a possible cabal attack. if the weren't enough to even impede them, at least one would've sent a warning to the city to prepare for war and evacuate. G: the hidden would have made perimeters and investigative forces way before any of this to fight and warn the city and ikora. H: Rasputin. he doesn't trust us, true. but he would have warned us at least, as he has a monitoring array all across the system, and that we are the only things in the system that don't want to destroy him. not to mention, he has multiple warheads he could have used to attack the cabal in the middle of the battle. and mind you, all of the warnings and distress beacons would have gotten to us near instantly. the consensus would have made the decision to at the very least evacuate in the event we couldn't win. so why were completely unprepared?

Simply put, as Douglas Adams reminds us, space is BIG. We can only watch a small percentage of the sky at any one time. And it's possible that the Cabal knew what sort of telemetry our satellite grid used and simply replicated it: kill a warsat, transmit the same thing it was sending. One does wonder, though: the Cabal don't like the Hive or Fallen. And apparently, they HATE us so much that they started wars with the Hive and Taken (two highly dangerous powers) just to go for OUR throats. So why bother with a stealth attack? They blow up planets for getting in the way. Why not blow up Earth? Kill all the Hive and Fallen there, obliterate humanity once and for all? Either Bungie has a lot to explain about this, or there's another explanation for the Cabal's extreme restraint. I do hope it's the latter.

One of my friends brought that up and you know what I said in response? Ever watch star wars 7? Getting past the force field onto star killer base with light speed? Thats what the cabal did.

Speaker is Consul. It's an inside job. Spoiler alert.

Love all the excuses. Here's some military fact. You loose even a single sat you go to high alert. You loose the equivalent of a sub sonar grid and you prep nukes! So no it isnt possible for us to have simply ignored even one of the issues Ikora mentions in the opening of homecoming. The tower is circled by rail guns any single one of which could take out the command ship in one hit. The mission premis is 100% utter tosh. Only desticles are defending it at this point. Even 12 year olds don't buy it.

Surely the guardians sitting in orbit would've seen the cabal attacking satellites on their ship's scanners.

The only part that really bugs me logic wise is how the hell do we even survive falling off Ghaul's ship? We had our light taken that fall should've killed us and we would never come back. I know blah blah story but come on the only thing that can survive that are titanfall pilots and vault hunters

Where were the warnings across the entire solar system? Why was oryx met at Saturn yet gaul is able to walk in the front door?

Where was rasputin and his defences? Thats my question?

How would you explain not one of the guardians coming or leaving the tower not noticing the armada of ships heading towards the city. Or the sheer incompetence of whoever monitoring the sats not noticing something unusual was going on.

I'm just wondering why we have our new subclasses in the first mission. I was thinking we would get those new abilities after we regained our light

One thing I keep seeing is everyone asking how they got past the Dead Orbit Fleet, The Dreadnought, The Reef, etc. Who said they had to fly in parallel to the plane of the solar system? With FTL travel you don't have to completely rely on gravity and orbital patterns to get around. They probably came at Earth directly from above or below the system's orbital plane and bypassed all of that. My only question is what was Rasputin doing through all of this?

1.We almost got invaded three or four times before the potato turtles invaded us. There should have been look outs, or had back up satellites or something 2. Guardians in orbit should have seen something 3. The Dreadnaught got destroyed? Tower wasn't keeping a close eye on that? They caught us with our pants down or we were too cocky and assumed nothing could touch us.

Shaxx has bean weakening guardian’s weapons for years in the crucible. It was likely him who turned off the outer defenses and let the Cabal in. Is it coincidence that Shaxx blows up the vaults then gives you a weak weapon and tells you to go fight Cabal expecting you to die? I think not. Look up “Fifth Column”