- If the raid is going well and you're someone who doesn't know how to do the hard parts, then ask to have a turn with relic/runner/sword.
- Get checkpoints saved on backup characters so you can go in solo and learn the level. Think about where enemies spawn, think about where you could find cover.
- If you're a squeaker, it's not your actual voice that annoys people, but the fact that most of the time you won't be quiet, and/or not listen. Try to do both.
- There is no such thing as a mandatory weapon loadout for raiding. When raid leaders or groups insist on these, it's usually as a crutch because they lack the skill or coordination to use anything else. You take a risk by joining these teams. Things tend to fall apart when things don't go to plan, because usually they lack the ability to adapt.
- I would rather have bad people on my team who are trying their hardest, than good people who don't care.
- Do not start a raid if you know that in 20 minutes you need to go and eat your dinner, walk the dog, put the kids to bed, pick up your spouse from work, *unless* you make that clear at the start and everyone is ok with that.
- Do not quit out of a raid after a handful of wipes. Try to get better and try to make the team work. If you're quitting early, then you aren't improving, and you're relying on people to carry you. Unless you're genuinely so good that the raid group is beneath you, but in my experience those people aren't in LFG, and 99% of the time, those who quit are the ones who caused the wipe.
- Practise sections of the raid solo if you can. Let Templar spawn and try to learn how many shots different weapons take to kill an Oracle. Learn where they spawn. Try the relic. Try to stay alive for 5 minutes against the mobs.
- Watch YouTube completions of raids to learn strategies. It's hard for others to have to explain the entire raid to you, and wastes time. Come prepared.
- Bring multiple Special and Heavy ammo synths and have extras in the vault.
- Don't play loud music. No-one likes it.
That's all for now really.
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You forgot one [spoiler]-Do not ingest the microphone.[/spoiler]
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10 RepliesEdited by bFLY: 4/18/2017 4:49:38 PM1.) ignore all lfg requests that ask for specific, grimoire, or emblems. 80% of these posts are made by silly people who will most likely rage and bitch over every little mistake. 2.) ignore lfg posts that threaten to boot, no matter the reason. It just shows the toxicity that will probably be present in that group. You havnt met any of your potential teammates but you're already threatening to boot them?! It just shows the mentality of the group. 3.) If you've never done a raid, come prepared. Do your homework on the raids so that you have some idea of what's going on in each encounter. We have all done these raids dozens of times, a lot of people don't want to carry some guy trying to do a blind run. The raids are pretty easy in terms of mechanics, anybody with thumbs and the average ability to learn can figure it out. 4.) If you've wiped twice and people are already raging and have an attitude [b][u]leave immediately [/u][/b]. That raid will only get worse. Videogames are meant to be fun, and there is nothing fun about people bitching and moaning and arguing with each other the entire time. 5.) Have fun, be chill. This ties into #4. You should not be stressed out while playing a videogame. If you find yourself getting annoyed or angry, just leave. Don't stick around and be toxic. 6.) Don't join a raid team knowing that you will have to leave and go run errands, go to school, work, etc 30 minutes into it. Nothing worse than getting midway through a raid and suddenly having a guy leave. Then you have to find a new person who is cool with not starting fresh. It takes time and inconveniences the team. When I decide to raid, I make sure I have at least 2 hours of free time. 7.) Make sure you join a team where everyone has a mic. Raids are all about communication. Mics are necessary to communicate. Sure it can be done if one guy doesn't have a mic, but it's generally harder and leaves more room for error. You don't need a fancy mic, the standard mic that comes with consoles will do. 8.) It's cool to talk and joke around during a raid, that's what makes them fun. But when it's time to communicate crucial info, keep the unnecessary chatter down to a minimum. We can all hear about the time you punched your wall after smoking that "dank" kush [u][b]AFTER[/b][/u] we finish the encounter. 9.) Be honest with yourself. If you know that you arent the most comfortable performing a specific task in the raid, give it up to someone else. Even if you know that you are good, but for some reason that day you just couldn't time your sword hits right or you couldn't aim your bomb throws and its causing wipes, set your pride aside and let someone else try. We have all had those raids where for some reason we just couldn't get our shit together. It's not your fault, and nobody will think any less of you. It's better to let someone else try, than be stubborn and offended and keep causing wipes. That will only make your team resent you and probably become toxic. 10.) When you find a good team, and you beat the raid, [b]add them to your friends list[/b]. Ask everyone first, and if they all agree, add them. This is a great way to get a solid, consistent group. I personally am so bad at this, and it's part of the reason Ive been playing since beta and day one and still don't have a clan or raid group lol. Don't just say "good game" then leave, add them! Especially if you're a solo player.
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1 ReplyMandatory Weapons are not a crutch they are baselines for weapons that are effective and efficient at certain encounters, while I'll advocate for a team of spindles at Warpriest and Golgoroth any high impact sniper will do. However some weapons will severely handicap a team and can cause some unwanted results, for example using Outbreak prime and ghorn on Vosik pt 2, may seem like a good idea as they do bonus damage, however the Wolfpack rounds and nano swarms have the ability to turn Vosik around or launch captains off the map, 2 things you do not to do. That's were weapon loadouts come into play, they set standards and keep guardians prepared for whatever happens.
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Earlier I saw a level 17 post for a heroic Aksis. Not joking.
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5 Replies-The rocket launcher is not to be used as a rushing weapon. -The shield and sword relics use a third person perspective and allow you to melee in a direction independent of your current line of sight. You can use this while in the air to make quick direction changes or evasive actions or on the ground to lunge at enemies or quickly traverse an area. -Rocket launchers have trouble firing through the relic shield. Some walls and environmental decorations also have an invisible boundary zone that is interpreted to be a solid surface. Check twice so you don't pay the price. -If you end up in the front of the group when you gather with your team to concentrate fire, try crouching. It prevents you from blocking your teammates' attacks and let's you pretend you're in a war reenactment. -The rocket launcher is not a close ranged weapon, nor is it an aoe melee substitute. These tactics do not make you a glass cannon. The term "glass cannon" is not the same as "kamikaze." -The enemy ai cannot hear your taunts, insults, threats, complements about their mother, reasoning, commands to drop their weapon, anti-communist/protestor propaganda, surrender request, negotiations, or promises to "kill them peacefully" . . . but your teammates can. -Pick off targets rather than firing into a group. If engaging quick moving enemies, try to maintain a clear firing line. This will prevent your aim being pulled away by an enemy that passes in front of your target. -The bayonets on weapons are non-functional. -Never be afraid to ask questions, nor answer others if you think it will help. -The fundamental operation and damage output patters of shotguns have been significantly altered recently. It is no longer effective to enter all combat engagements with the universal remote, a secondary shotgun, no backup plans, and two raised middle fingers. -Playing as a titan does not require you to assert your dominance by means of punching other titans. However, failure to do so will likely lead to you being unable to attract a mate.
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While no required loadouts sure... Sleeper and dark drinker seem to be best. By far...on multiple encounters in different raids. No required loadouts sure... But use some common sense. You are not going to do well with all close quarters weapons, high impact sniper is better than low impact snipers especially for knights, dont boss dps with a shotgun, auto rifle or handcannon. I have had all these problems...
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5 RepliesBe sure to take frequent smoke breaks, because it can't wait. Be sure to loudly eat into your microphone. The louder you chew, the better you do. Yell at your kids. You're a guardian first and a parent second. Go AFK. You have a life unlike the rest of these nerds. Don't ever communicate. If your teammates were any good they would read your mind.
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Edited by GamerCone: 4/18/2017 5:38:16 PM1.) make sure you're extremely drunk and violently angry. 2.). Put microphone in mouth in order to sound like snarling beast and scare all adversaries. 3.) make sure you're letting out a few, "Yeeeeehaws" each encounter to display your fun nature. 4.) Before final encounter make sure to take a shit. Never enter an engagement with full bowels. 5.) begin blasting "The Macarena" and T-Bagging every player on your fireteam that dies. Good luck Guardians
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1 ReplyI need to raid with you...most of the groups I've been in are salty beyond belief....half the reason I stopped raiding and playing destiny in the first place
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Trust me I was with a group of friends for 3 hrs last night trying to beat Vosik and couldn't. So I left the party and hit my profile offline and lfg the raid and was able to beat in about a little over a hr... Long story short don't play with friends ,only randoms from now on...
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For the love of God watch some basic videos and don't be an obnoxious prick. Oh, and don't lie to cover up your mistakes, that's not just for raiding that's a piece of advice for life in general. Bad personality trait.
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1 ReplyWell a thing i didn't know when we were doing CROTA ends which you had to shot the shreikers so they open and take damage
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- Make sure to take [i]everything[/i] personally. Person who just joined wants to confirm it's a fresh run? They obviously think you're a filthy liar so respond accordingly! Forgot to take off Quiver? The mother of the person who pointed it out is fair game. Friendly hunter throws an invis grenade at you? Paint a verbal rainbow while sternly informing them that can handle yourself!
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1 Reply[quote]- If you're a squeaker, it's not your actual voice that annoys people, but the fact that most of the time you won't be quiet, and/or not listen. Try to do both.[/quote] It's not [i]often[/i] their actual voice. The worst of the worst Squeakers tend to scream, shout, have their Mic right next to their mouth, and/or play the game audio in their Mic so you hear their tv as well. Also, their excessive use of racial slurs and offensive slang to be funny or when they make noises. If you're not getting many laughs with your excessive shouting of a racial slur, quit, don't keep going. Sometimes their screaming can even overpower everyone else on the Mic and we miss important call outs. Overall, I'm not saying don't talk, but try and keep it down and under control. [quote]- There is no such thing as a mandatory weapon loadout for raiding. When raid leaders or groups insist on these, it's usually as a crutch because they lack the skill or coordination to use anything else. You take a risk by joining these teams. Things tend to fall apart when things don't go to plan, because usually they lack the ability to adapt.[/quote] Well, this goes both ways. Fatebringer isn't a mandatory weapon for Vault, yet Black Spindle is a heavily preferred weapon for most of King's Fall. The damage output and it's abilities will make it a lot easier and it won't have the team picking up your slack because you want to use "But not Forgotten." Another example is Dark Drinker isn't a mandatory weapon for Wrath of the Machine, but Touch of Malice is a preferred weapon for Oryx. Back in the day, most weapons couldn't pull off the DPS to stagger Oryx, and unless everyone was shooting Oryx, he wouldn't even flinch. Having just 2 people with Touch could stagger Oryx faster than no one having it. [quote]- Do not start a raid if you know that in 20 minutes you need to go and eat your dinner, walk the dog, put the kids to bed, pick up your spouse from work, *unless* you make that clear at the start and everyone is ok with that.[/quote] Yes, this please. Don't just leave in the middle of a DPS phase because you didn't take out the trash during the walk to the boss room. If you know you have to leave in an hour to pick up your daughter from school, hold off until after. The other 5 of us want to get this done and not sit in the boss room or screw around in PvP for an hour until you get back. Furthermore, don't get mad if we kick you because you do this and replace you. We're completely okay with after a wipe or after defeating a boss/before fighting a boss for a smoke break or bathroom break or for you to make a hot pocket. That is tolerable, but abandoning us to go do something that will take 30 minutes is not okay. Doing it more than once is really pushing it. [quote]- Watch YouTube completions of raids to learn strategies. It's hard for others to have to explain the entire raid to you, and wastes time. Come prepared.[/quote] There are YouTubers out there, such as Datto, that give so much information on the raid. You would be smart to take advantage of this. The "I don't want the raid to be spoiled for me" is a piss poor excuse. Unless you are a rain man when it comes to puzzles, don't go in blind.
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10 RepliesDon't eat food with your mic on.
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2 Replies[quote]- There is no such thing as a mandatory weapon loadout for raiding. When raid leaders or groups insist on these, it's usually as a crutch because they lack the skill or coordination to use anything else. You take a risk by joining these teams. Things tend to fall apart when things don't go to plan, because usually they lack the ability to adapt[/quote] all in all good post! only thing tho, there are not completely mandatory weapons if you are skilled but some loadouts would be just plain silly, and its up to experienced players to educate the less experinced, if someone came in as a hunter and is running baldedancer using a an auto rifle, fusion rifle and sword on the warpriest im going to tell them to change that pretty damn quickly, its not a lack of skill recommending loadout when the primary focus of a lot of encounters is max dps ✌
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3 Replies[quote]- Do not quit out of a raid after a handful of wipes. Try to get better and try to make the team work. If you're quitting early, then you aren't improving, and you're relying on people to carry you. Unless you're genuinely so good that the raid group is beneath you, but in my experience those people aren't in LFG, and 99% of the time, those who quit are the ones who caused the wipe.[/quote]
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1 ReplyPlease add : - Bring multiple Special and Heavy ammo synths and have extras in the vault. The number of times I have waited this month for people that do not have them on their character and have to go to the Tower or Reef to buy more after starting a Raid is appalling.
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2 RepliesI agree with everything except the weapons part. I don't believe that there are strict loadouts that you must use, but there are definitely loadouts you should not use. For example, for one time at the Warpriest in King's Fall, one of our teammates was using a 20/20 AMR.
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8 RepliesEdited by Sherpa: 4/18/2017 4:23:23 AMEhh agreed except for the weapon part. There's no mandatory loadout but suggesting a weapon that's BETTER for the fight is in no means a bad thing to do Example: using a sidearm on golgoroth / using a shotgun on Templar (for actual boss damage) and suggesting they switch to a sniper
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[quote]There is no such thing as a mandatory weapon loadout for raiding[/quote] Truth. Ive gone through every raid using thorn and still fulfill my role and share of killing/dmg
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The worst one is explaining the raid. Now, I'm no dickhead, I will explain the raid but come on, a 10 minute guide is always available on YouTube and it's just annoying to explain at every section what to do and the best ways to do it. For me, this just takes the enjoyment out of the raid.
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10 Replies[quote][quote]- Do not quit out of a raid after a handful of wipes. Try to get better and try to make the team work. If you're quitting early, then you aren't improving, and you're relying on people to carry you. Unless you're genuinely so good that the raid group is beneath you, but in my experience those people aren't in LFG, and 99% of the time, those who quit are the ones who caused the wipe.[/quote][/quote] If we're there for 30+ mins on one checkpoint and nobody is at least attempting to listen to my suggestions...I'm probably leaving
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- Have the decency to turn off the mic while eating your chips or if you munch your food like a camel. - Try to pull out the mic from your throat if you need to breath with your mouth.
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3 Replies- You are a team. If a wipe occurs stop looking to blame someone. You are a team in a team based activity. You will either fail as a team or pass as a team. Cover each other's weaknesses and look out for each other. We all mess up from time to time.
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4 RepliesFEEL FREE TO USE YOUR SUPERS TO GENERATE ORBS FOR YOUR RAIDTEAM SO THEY CAN USE THEIR SUPERS AND HAVE A SUPER PARTY! Seriously tho, stop sitting on your supers. It's annoying.